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Antony Coello

Posts 153
19 Apr 2021 22:38


Did someone mention 060 >50Mhz unobtainium CPUs? (@Vojin touched on this)
   
    Trying to get a non fake, correct mask for high speed (especially with FPU) version is a minefield.
   
    Im much happier being able to re-use my exsisting optimised 030 code again at much faster speeds (in FastRAM).
   
    However, hats off to them for a good product there, if you are in the market for an 060 board and have a spare CPU on the shelf.


Robert Pulfer-Ridings

Posts 59
19 Apr 2021 22:50


Manuel Jesus wrote:

This was plain and simple a hit piece.

This is exactly what is, a publicity stunt. He wants people to argue and discuss it.

Just look at whats happening in this forum? To be honest the best way forward is to not respond or show him any attention. I should have said nothing on his channel but I did. I should have unsubscribed without saying a word.

The best way to respond is to release a flood of youtube videos showing the Vampire at its best.



Przemyslaw Tkaczyk

Posts 155
20 Apr 2021 11:02


EXTERNAL LINK 

 
Recorded half an hour ago.


David Wright

Posts 373
20 Apr 2021 14:35


I didn’t hear any laughing.


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 6207
20 Apr 2021 15:43


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

Warp has enough its own merits ... RTG integrated.

 
Do you have WARP, or do you post stuff without knowing anything?
 
Do you know that most Amiga games and Demos today
do NOT WORK on WARP, when you enable RTG?
 
Its a fact that Amiga games work much better with Vampire 1200 than with Warp today.
And its a fact that with WB in RTG/truecolor modes Amiga games give issue on WARP.
 
The guy doing the video was fully aware of this.
And this is the reason he did on purpose run his WB in PAL on WARP.
The truth is the video is setup to fool the viewers.
He carefully dodged around the existing problem of the WARP,
but at the same time broke the Stuff for the VAMPIRE.
Its a fact that per default game compatibility on Vampire is much better today.

 


Michael Piano

Posts 39
20 Apr 2021 16:48


No would read it cover to cover because it isn't a novel. If I'm looking for changing the FastIDE setting and where I would do that, then it would be very helpful.
 
  Does a person who wants to learn how to program read an entire book before actually typing code or do they read what they need to get started and refer to the documentation when they need to know something specific?
 
  Just making a point... and yes, that video was a witch hunt. Sorry for bringing up a topic that is only tangentially connected.
 
 
 
Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

   
   
    I think you can not expect that there would be a manual teaching you everything about Amiga. This expectation is not realistic.
    And if we would try to make such manual then it would be five thousand pages big - and no one would read it.
   
   
 
 

 


Stefano Briccolani

Posts 586
20 Apr 2021 17:32


From my point of view that video had nothing to do with documentation.
A golden rule is to make videos about something you like and you know. That was not the case.



Vojin Vidanovic
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Posts 1916/ 1
20 Apr 2021 18:11


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

      Do you have WARP, or do you post stuff without knowing anything?
     
      Do you know that most Amiga games and Demos today
      do NOT WORK on WARP, when you enable RTG?
     
      Its a fact that Amiga games work much better with Vampire 1200 than with Warp today.
      And its a fact that with WB in RTG/truecolor modes Amiga games give issue on WARP.
   

   
    No, and I dont plan to, V4SA is clearly enough for me. I just read the Warp 1260 card specification and take it for granted. They claim its CGX and P96 compatible. The problem that you explain is not presented in its documentation, website or in any Amiga forum, but is also clear no RTG software has been tested in disputed video.
     
   
Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

      The guy doing the video was fully aware of this.
      And this is the reason he did on purpose run his WB in PAL on WARP.
      The truth is the video is setup to fool the viewers.
      He carefully dodged around the existing problem of the WARP,
      but at the same time broke the Stuff for the VAMPIRE.
      Its a fact that per default game compatibility on Vampire is much better today.
   

   
    Yes, it does not look like comparison at all - more like showing what "does not" work on Vampire with laughs.
   
    There is however, a bit fairer "direct" comparison done 10 months ago, if anyone is interested. Seems to be done by Jakub H. that has both. Left system (smaller monitor) is V1200 and is clearly and visibly faster.
   
    EXTERNAL LINK
     
  Nothing left more to discuss here - we need better reviewers :)


Cego 1200

Posts 44
21 Apr 2021 16:16


I have also done my own responsevideo. Some stuff just had to be said and put straight.

EXTERNAL LINK


David Wright

Posts 373
21 Apr 2021 19:00


Wow Cego, you really took it personally. This guy isn't worth all that. By the way, what Amiga community? Like minded people in hobbyist computer venue, nothing more that that.

You know who your friends and community are? Those that show up to help you move. My son found out real quick when he moved into his house years ago. Family came.


Robert Pulfer-Ridings

Posts 59
21 Apr 2021 22:32


Cego 1200 wrote:

I have also done my own responsevideo. Some stuff just had to be said and put straight.
 
  EXTERNAL LINK 

I know exactly how you feel and agree with everything you said in the video. :-) :-/

Thank you for the video Cego :-)


Mallagan Bellator

Posts 393
06 Jun 2021 04:01


RetroCengo uploaded two new videos with updated core and all
Much more friendly towards the Vampire than the first and second videos.

Yes, his first attempts were bad and uneducated, he pissed me off too, and I can clearly see how and why Gunnar would get mad. Here he and the team puts years of work and love into the Apollo core, and this babbling buffoon laughs his ass off at it.
Personally, I was hurt by it, because I had talked to RetroCengo many times before and considered him my friend, but this embarrased me...

I think he somewhat redeemed himself, at least a little bit. The best thing he says here is to support anyone who makes Amiga hardware, and if we want new Vampires, support the Apollo team. I’m somewhat satisfied with that


Manos Sg

Posts 96
06 Jun 2021 11:56


Ok, I watched both videos and I am convinced that this guy doesn't know what he's doing. Of course, ignorance is not a sin, I am a complete Amiga noob myself, but even I know the importance of WHDLoad options/Tooltypes...and this is not Vampire specific knowledge.

All in all, I love this guy's enthusiasm and positive spirit, but I believe he lacks the qualifications to do reliable, trustworthy hardware reviews.


Jd 64

Posts 41
06 Jun 2021 12:06


I still get the impression from looking at his videos that he prefers any 060 card over the Vampire, period. He clearly isn't interested in trying to get the best out of the Vampire as it is in his words only  "hardware recreation".
 
 


Saladriel Amrael

Posts 166
06 Jun 2021 14:47


He is definitely not an Amiga Expert at all, but what I like about him, is that he is trying to understand and to question his own videos.




Stefano Briccolani

Posts 586
06 Jun 2021 14:51


Sorry, this guy should not be justified for being an 'enthusiast'. We all are,not sure about him. His videos are toxic because he tries to convince people that buying from China a 'refurbished' 060rev6 is a smart move. It's not. Hope that his watchers understand this and don't follow his dangerous advices.
  I tell you one thing that is not smart at all..
  Watch this video from him
  EXTERNAL LINK    then imagine a way to spend that 16 minutes of your life worse than this.
  This video shows no respect for his watcher's time. A normal guy would have tested something before putting a video like that online. This shows total desrespect for his watchers


Cego 1200

Posts 44
06 Jun 2021 15:42


seems like he caught my response video as it got 1k views and according to my analytics quiet enough from denmark to get his attention ;)

Doesnt suprize me that he's now on that "we're all happy and grateful regarding any amiga devs" trip, which is basically the opposite of what he was saying in his initial video.

Just don't take him serious. He lacks knowledge and respect.


Uber Freak

Posts 22
06 Jun 2021 21:36


Regardless of this guy's agenda (I haven't watched his videos), I'm having trouble with WHDLoad myself.
My 060 setup is much more compatible, which is kind of surprising.
Hopefully the next core release for the V1200 improves things.

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