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P Govotsos
Posts 9
30 Dec 2016 05:33
| Hello, Is there somewhere that has complete instructions for installation of the Vampire 600? Not so much the hardware installation but everything that comes after that. What are the steps to install 3.1 or 3.9? I see bits and pieces scattered around but not a single, comprehensive instruction manual. From what I'm gathering, 3.1 is pretty straightforward although I'm not sure how setpatch should be used - noromupdates or not. For 3.9 apparently there is a patch that needs to be installed after bb2 (before rebooting?). Can bb3 & bb4 be installed? Any patches? I read that some patches like fblit aren't compatible. Are there others? I find answers to one question in a thread here or the wiki or other forums. What don't find is a single source with all of the information in one place. If such a place already exists, I haven't found it yet although I'm certain that I'm quite capable of completely missing something right in front of my face - ask my wife :) Any links are greatly appreciated! Thanks
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Samuel Crow
Posts 424
30 Dec 2016 10:24
| 3.1 should work out of the box. 3.9 needs a patched ROM image for its double boot sequence but I would have to use a search to find the forum posts on here. FBlit clashes with P96 so you can use one or the other. I will post more later.
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O. Radfoo
Posts 10
30 Dec 2016 11:10
| I have the 500 version on the way, so keen to learn more, think i'll put 3.9 on. Am I correct in assuming from a software point of view it is the same as the 600 version? I am also interested in the hardware install, I guess it should be straight forward but I think I read somewhere that the existing rom chip should be removed, is that correct?
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Samuel Crow
Posts 424
30 Dec 2016 11:41
| Oliver Radford wrote:
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I have the 500 version on the way, so keen to learn more, think i'll put 3.9 on. Am I correct in assuming from a software point of view it is the same as the 600 version?
I am also interested in the hardware install, I guess it should be straight forward but I think I read somewhere that the existing rom chip should be removed, is that correct?
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The two differences between the A500 and A600 version are the fact that the IDE controller is in the FPGA on the 500 version and that the V500+ also has a socket for a network interface. The FPGA core is different as a result. (Don't mix them up!) The ROM will not clash with the Vampire board but it will not be used by the machine while the Vampire is installed. If you have a ROM switcher it needs to be removed because it is too high and physically won't fit with the Vampire.
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I am in charge of writing the installation instructions so any questions should be asked or linked here.
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O. Radfoo
Posts 10
30 Dec 2016 17:23
| Samuel Crow wrote:
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The ROM will not clash with the Vampire board but it will not be used by the machine while the Vampire is installed. If you have a ROM switcher it needs to be removed because it is too high and physically won't fit with the Vampire.
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Thanks for the clarification, perhaps the ROM switcher bit is what I read / miss-understood.Looking forward to more info on the OS3.9 installation. Is 3.9 what most people use with the Vampire? Suppose pretty much stock 3.1 would be fastest but everything is nicely together with 3.9. AmiKit looks nice but maybe more difficult to get running?
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P Govotsos
Posts 9
30 Dec 2016 18:18
| Samuel Crow wrote:
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3.1 should work out of the box. 3.9 needs a patched ROM image for its double boot sequence but I would have to use a search to find the forum posts on here. FBlit clashes with P96 so you can use one or the other. I will post more later.
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I thought you couldn't patch the Kickstart ROM onboard the Vampire. At least that's what forums were saying. Have I missed something?
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Kolbjørn Barmen
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Posts 219/ 2
31 Dec 2016 00:13
| WHLoad can be used to bootstrap different kickstart and workbench environments, and a lot of work is put into making WHDLoad work well with Apollo Core - will it not work to make a slave for an OS3.9 with custom kickstart? EXTERNAL LINK EXTERNAL LINK
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Samuel Crow
Posts 424
31 Dec 2016 09:54
| The problem with Workbench 3.9 is that instead of patching the 3.1 ROM it loads a custom ROM image in place of the ROM using the shadow RAM capabilities of the accelerator card. That's what doesn't work. Patching works, replacing it with a custom ROM image doesn't.
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Kolbjørn Barmen
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Posts 219/ 2
01 Jan 2017 17:20
| Samuel Crow wrote:
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The problem with Workbench 3.9 is that instead of patching the 3.1 ROM it loads a custom ROM image in place of the ROM using the shadow RAM capabilities of the accelerator card. |
That is not how one normally run 3.9, many cards and boards do not even have shadow RAM capabilities.
| That's what doesn't work. Patching works, replacing it with a custom ROM image doesn't. |
And if using custom kickstart under WHDLoad?
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Documentation about the Vampire hardware