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Adnan Sword
Posts 18
12 Feb 2016 03:07
| placed a bid of 80 bucks on an amiga 600,hope I win,ends in 2 days,cheers to all.
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Michal Warzecha
Posts 209
12 Feb 2016 07:31
| Yesterday I have try to buy beautifull A600, white and not broken case. Candy one. But damaged mainboard (white screen only).
Bad luck, someone give more than me. Need to find another one.
Wish You luck!
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Adnan Sword
Posts 18
12 Feb 2016 07:39
| who had tought the amiga 600 would become so wanted,there is some lunatic on ebay asking 750 euros haha,thank you Michal,keep an eye on Ebay,you too good luck man.
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Thierry Atheist
Posts 644
12 Feb 2016 09:47
| I could talk for 4 hours, as to why Amiga is the GREATEST COMPUTER EVER to this day! Amiga's S-aga, is FAR from over. :-D It doesn't even end at the first FPGA standalone Apollo Core motherboard that will be made (I hope soon) eventually.
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Olaf Schoenweiss
Posts 690
12 Feb 2016 09:51
| I bought 2 some time ago (long before vampire). They were the cheapest amigas on ebay at that time :)
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Michal Warzecha
Posts 209
12 Feb 2016 12:06
| For now. Probably prices rise up now, Vampire is available. Mayby when V500 will be available A600 lose some customers and prices go down.
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Pak Rat
Posts 18
12 Feb 2016 13:35
| When the Vampire is being made for each of the Amigas, then the current Amiga it's being made for will go up in value, like a wave. :p I like the idea that they are bringing up the floor of performance for all 68K Amigas, and then any new software written to take advantage of the Apollo will run on them all. It will be the true second era of the Amiga. I'd like one for my 4000 mostly, but I have a 1200, a 1000, and a 2000 as well. I had a 500 as my first, but sold it long ago. I love how the Apollo is already smoking the ColdFire, the PPC 604 and even the "Amiga" X1000 in some ways.
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Michal Warzecha
Posts 209
12 Feb 2016 14:23
| True. Great device, ane the best thing is that- this is not the end. Updates are still on the way. Some day BigGun will fing the way to make it faster than FPGA can handle :D
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Olaf Schoenweiss
Posts 690
12 Feb 2016 15:46
| someday people will expect it to fly :)
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Pak Rat
Posts 18
12 Feb 2016 21:54
| And all the pictures of the cards I've seen have a Cyclone III, not even a 4 or 5! ^^ To be fair, though, I don't really know much about how FPGAs work, or how a 4 or 5 is increasingly better than a 3, other than size of logic real estate, let alone the two FPGA families above Cyclone.
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Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 6219
13 Feb 2016 08:11
| Olaf Schoenweiss wrote:
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I bought 2 some time ago (long before vampire). They were the cheapest amigas on ebay at that time :)
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Olaf, I need your help, can you chat with me in IRC?
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Niclas A
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 219
13 Feb 2016 08:56
| Pak Rat wrote:
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And all the pictures of the cards I've seen have a Cyclone III, not even a 4 or 5! ^^ To be fair, though, I don't really know much about how FPGAs work, or how a 4 or 5 is increasingly better than a 3, other than size of logic real estate, let alone the two FPGA families above Cyclone.
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An easy check on alteras webpage: Cyclone II Year introduced 2004 90nm Cyclone III Year introduced 2007 65nm Variants LEs (K) 5 10 15 25 40 56 70 81 100 119 151 198
Memory devices supported DDR2, DDR, SDR Cyclone IV Year introduced 2009 60nm Built on an optimized 60-nm low-power process, Cyclone IV E FPGAs extend the low-power leadership of previous generation Cyclone III FPGAs. The latest generation devices reduce core voltage, which lowers total power by 25 percent compared to the predecessor. Variants
LEs (K) 6 10 14 15 21 22 29 40 50 56 74 75 109 114 150 Memory devices supported DDR2, DDR, SDR Cyclone V Year introduced 2011 28nm With Cyclone V FPGAs, you can get the power, cost, and performance levels you need for high-volume applications including protocol bridging, motor control drives, broadcast video converter and capture cards, and handheld devices. The combination of the HPS with Altera's 28 nm low-power FPGA fabric provide the performance and ecosystem of an applications-class ARM processor with the flexibility, low cost, and low power consumption of the Cyclone V FPGAs. The devices are built on TSMC's 28 nm Low-Power (28LP) process, which brings down the power and cost required by cost-sensitive applications. Up to 40 percent lower total power compared with Cyclone IV GX FPGAs
Over 4,000 MIPS (Dhrystones 2.1 benchmark) processing performance for under 1.8 W (for SoC FPGA) Variants
LEs (K) 25 49 77 149.5 301 35.5 50 77 149.5 301 77 149.5 301 Memory devices supported DDR3, DDR2, LPDDR2
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Daniel Sevo
Posts 299
13 Feb 2016 14:23
| @Niclas A
Looks like the Cyclone 5 is a pretty nice upgrade over III. The IV doen't seem to bring to much new improvements over III.
Pricing for Mk 5 dev boards seems to be in the $170 range, but what is pricing on just chips in quantities of say 100?
Me dreaming here --> It would be nice if the A1200 version used the mk5 giving the core a bit more "oomph" ;-)
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Thierry Atheist
Posts 644
13 Feb 2016 18:27
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It would be nice if the A1200 version used the mk5 giving the core a bit more "oomph" ;-)
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You kidding me? It looks like 3 to 7 times faster than a Cyclone III is!!!Imagine all the people that have used Amigas in the past and thought to themselves, "if my Amiga was just 4 or 5 times faster, it would be ALL that I need". Well, folks, we've entered a "whole new realm" with Apollo Core powered Amigas. Except for the graphics side, I think that you'll get as good computing as a 2 GHz i3 computer with the Cyclone 5.
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Adnan Sword
Posts 18
13 Feb 2016 20:46
| oh no,somebody just bid 92 euro,men this is not funny anymore,you have to bid in the last minute if you are smart,haha,goddamn.
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Ole Eitels
Posts 21
13 Feb 2016 23:05
| It will probably get snagged right from under your nose anyway. Only way to be certain, is to place a maximum bid high enough. So-called snipers can outbid you right down to a fraction of the last second in the countdown.
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Daniel Sevo
Posts 299
13 Feb 2016 23:13
| Indeed, there are "sniping-apps" for that..
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Olaf Schoenweiss
Posts 690
14 Feb 2016 00:24
| 92 EUR for A600? I should use one A600 and sell the other... I can almost finance the vampire with it :)
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Adnan Sword
Posts 18
14 Feb 2016 05:54
| oh no,111 euro 3 hours to go,Gunnar help!.
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Adnan Sword
Posts 18
14 Feb 2016 05:55
| swith to sniper modus then,haha.
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Documentation about the Vampire hardware