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Norbert Kett
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 39
03 Feb 2016 18:10
| Is anyone using V600 v2 with rev 1.3 board? My A600 (v1.3) won't boot if the V600 is mounted on. The green led is lighten up, but i see just black screen. I tried to remove the KS chip, cleaned the pins. I tried all hints from kipper2k, but no progress yet. Without V600 the machine is working fine. Madness...
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Simo Koivukoski
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 601
03 Feb 2016 20:30
| This can be a little difficult but is it possible for you to test with the another A600 with different PSU? It would help to exclude causes.
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Nixus Minimax
Posts 416
03 Feb 2016 21:55
| Try sanding down the plcc socket with fine grained sand paper. The vampire should eventually grip to the 68000 quite firmly and not pop off easily. Then clean everything again and use the mounts to connect the vampire to the 68000.
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Claudio Guglielmotti
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 185
03 Feb 2016 21:57
| I have the 1.3 A600, and it works.
Can you try to remove the HDD? i have a CF that gives problem when i boot...
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Norbert Kett
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 39
03 Feb 2016 22:09
| ofcourse, i removed everything. FDD, HDD, KS chip. Claudio: ha! somebody who have rev 1.3, You are my hope :)
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Nixus Minimax
Posts 416
04 Feb 2016 11:44
| Norbert Kett wrote:
| ha! somebody who have rev 1.3, You are my hope :)
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IIRC kipper has 22 different A600s and majsta something like 19. I can't imagine there wasn't a 1.3 among them. Have you tried sanding, cleaning and using the mounts?
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Norbert Kett
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 39
04 Feb 2016 12:16
| kipper2k told me, he never tried V600 with rev 1.3 A600.
(however he testing all produced V600 ofcourse)
but that is not important, because majsta did, and the design is compatible with all models.something is wrong here, but i don't know what. so disappointing to watch V600 videos from others... :( anyhow, i did not give up yet.
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Michal Warzecha
Posts 209
07 Feb 2016 09:27
| Mayby your Vampire is damaged? Can You try fit Vampire to other A600? Mayby someone near you has A600 and let You try your board?
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Renaud Schweingruber
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 379
07 Feb 2016 11:04
| V1.3 working without any problem here.
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Norbert Kett
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 39
07 Feb 2016 11:57
| someone wrote maybe the card was examined with x-ray during air shipping. and need to be reprogrammed.
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Ian Parsons
Posts 230
07 Feb 2016 12:12
| airport type x-rays don't damage flash storage.
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Michal Warzecha
Posts 209
07 Feb 2016 14:22
| Renaud Schweingruber wrote:
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V1.3 working without any problem here.
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Revisions are not so different. I don't think so revision is a problem.
Some time ago I was fixing A1200 whitch don't want to working with any BPPC cards. It was working fine with normall blizzards 030/040 and 060, and also Apollo cards. But not with BPPC. I was thinking it's power supply problem, but even If I try to powered card directly- no success. Still dead. I have never figure out problem, this one model just don't wan't to work with BPPC.Anyway, I think it's vampire problem, probably it's damaged in shipping. You should test it on another A600 to make sure, and then- resolder FPGA chip.
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Nixus Minimax
Posts 416
08 Feb 2016 08:53
| It's not necessarily a vampire problem, it may also be a bad repair on the original cpu which makes the vampire plcc fit badly. I'm sure majsta and you can figure something out to make everybody happy.
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Ian Parsons
Posts 230
08 Feb 2016 12:53
| If the CPU and socket are clean and making good contact, then either a signal or supply voltage on the A600 is unreliable in terms of talking with/powering the V600 or the V600 was physically damaged when removing it from the last test machine or in subsequent handling.
Without a second A600 machine to test the V600 board or an experienced electrical engineer to test the A600 we'll never know.
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Norbert Kett
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 39
17 Feb 2016 20:31
| today i tried my V600 in other A600 (rev. 2D) and i got same result. the machine did not boot with V600. my usb blaster will arrive in 3-4 weeks...
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Michal Warzecha
Posts 209
18 Feb 2016 14:14
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today i tried my V600 in other A600 (rev. 2D) and i got same result. the machine did not boot with V600. my usb blaster will arrive in 3-4 weeks...
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I don't think it's SW problem, probably HW issue.
Try push a little FPGA chip and then try to boot.
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Phil Lockett
Posts 3
27 Feb 2016 21:35
| @Norbert. Did you find the problem? I'm having the same problem with the same revision motherboard. I've sanded and cleaned the 68K CPU pins with IPA and secured the card with the supplied mounts. I removed the CF HDD to no avail. I have noticed that two pins on 'L1' of the Vampire have a solder bridge (top two adjacent pins on the right of L1), does anyone know if this is normal, all the pics I see online don't have these pins bridged? *UPDATE*
After inspection I found the mounts were a little to high and stopping the Vampire socket from seating down far enough on the CPU. I removed them and the 600 booted no problem. I'll either file the mounts down a little or look into designing myself a better mounting system. Oh, and the aforementioned bridge on L1; that's fine, the pins both go to ground.
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Andrew Copland
Posts 113
03 Mar 2016 10:50
| I have the rev 1.3 A600 as well, my Vampire arrived the other day and it works. Fitting it was difficult, very very tight fit on the cpu. Difficult to keep in place whilst screwing the standoffs into place. I fitted them to the Vampire board first, then attached it to the mainboard. I think they could have done with 1mm or less sanding off them. Then I screwed it to the mainboard whilst applying pressure to keep it in place. It booted first time and runs amazingly fast, congrats to the team you've done an amazing job! Norbert I hope you can get yours working, it sounds like the hardware might be faulty though.
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Norbert Kett
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 39
09 Mar 2016 11:56
| finally my V600 is working. somebody cleaned the socket pins on the V600, and it is now working. however the mounting and keeping the board in place is bit difficult. it likes to pop off from the CPU.
the only strange issue is the chip ram speed. bustest measured 1,3MB/sec speed, but others reported 2,2MB/sec. this slow chip ram holds back the entire system. my system is a simple 3.1 workbench with setpatch 43.6. the core is updated.
edit: ok, when i start without startup-sequence, the result is 3,5MB/sec :D
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