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Vampire 1200 -- First Contactpage  1 2 

Pedro Cotter
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 234
07 Jan 2020 18:12


Connecting the Vampire V1200 and first power on!
Piece of beauty!
EXTERNAL LINK


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1593
07 Jan 2020 18:23


Congrats Pedro, I am sure there will be many, many fine videos and hours of joy!


Todd H

Posts 25
07 Jan 2020 18:55


Sweet. Looking forward to getting mine. Probably the most excited I've been for a piece of Amiga kit in a long time.


Mister Cartoonmonkey

Posts 31
07 Jan 2020 21:50


Congratulations guys. ROCK ON!


Knight Stone

Posts 58
07 Jan 2020 22:13


thanks for sharin'  :)

I was expecting it to score higher than a V2 A600, but the score is identical, i thought the V1200 used DDR ?

just asking a question, excuse my ignorance, if the answer is obvious.  :)


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1593
07 Jan 2020 22:22


Knight Stone wrote:

    thanks for sharin'  :)
     
      I was expecting it to score higher than a V2 A600, but the score is identical, i thought the V1200 used DDR ?
     
      just asking a question, excuse my ignorance, if the answer is obvious.  :)
   

   
    Membus is real mem test.
   
    Pedro, can you update this:
   
    Membus world record in past
  EXTERNAL LINK     
    It would be nice if someone would run it again on V1200 x14 and V4SA x16 :)
   
    Bus Test Aminet m68k download
    EXTERNAL LINK 
  Current 0.7 FAQ text
 
  Q: What is memory performance of V2?
 
  VAMPIRE-2 reaches with LONG memory access now
  530 MB/sec READ 660 MB/sec WRITE speed.
 
  AMIGA BUSTEST - READL Score
  ------------------------------------------
  Note: Bustest benchmark on PPC systems runs in fast JIT emulation! (Andreas Wolf)
  VAMPIRE 2 529.5 MB/sec (world record!)
  x1000 AMIGA-1 PA6T 1800 MHz 285.6 MB/sec
  MOS IBook PPC G4 1400 MHz 185.4 MB/sec
  MOS MacMini PPC G4 1500 MHz 184.3 MB/sec
  OS4 SAM PPC 460 1100 MHz 109.7 MB/sec
  OS4 SAM PPC 440 667 MHz 91.1 MB/sec
  OS4 Peg2 PPC G4 1000 MHz 80.6 MB/sec
  CyberStormPPC 68060@50 55.1 MB/sec
  Apollo 1240 68040@40 47.8 MB/sec
  FPGA ARCADE 29.0 MB/sec
  Blizzard 1230 68030@50 24.3 MB/sec
  Typhoon MK2 68030@40 18.8 MB/sec
  AMIGA 4000 68040@25 11.5 MB/sec
  AMIGA 1200 ACA 1220 10.9 MB/sec
  Zeus 68000 50 Mhz 9.1 MB/sec
  Note that speed increases with faster RAM, V4 models have DDR3! (vox)

Also, Povray, P96 Speed, FXPaint

Past FXPaint
EXTERNAL LINK 
P96 test
EXTERNAL LINK 
Some V4 results also please!
 

   


Knight Stone

Posts 58
08 Jan 2020 00:06


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

Knight Stone wrote:

      thanks for sharin'  :)
     
      I was expecting it to score higher than a V2 A600, but the score is identical, i thought the V1200 used DDR ?
     
      just asking a question, excuse my ignorance, if the answer is obvious.  :)
     

     
      Membus is real mem test.
     
      Pedro, can you update this:
     
      Membus world record in past
    EXTERNAL LINK     
      It would be nice if someone would run it again on V1200 x14 and V4SA x16 :)
     
    Bus Test Aminet m68k download
      EXTERNAL LINK   
    Current 0.7 FAQ text
 
  Q: What is memory performance of V2?
 
  VAMPIRE-2 reaches with LONG memory access now
  530 MB/sec READ 660 MB/sec WRITE speed.
 
  AMIGA BUSTEST - READL Score
  ------------------------------------------
  Note: Bustest benchmark on PPC systems runs in fast JIT emulation! (Andreas Wolf)
  VAMPIRE 2 529.5 MB/sec (world record!)
  x1000 AMIGA-1 PA6T 1800 MHz 285.6 MB/sec
  MOS IBook PPC G4 1400 MHz 185.4 MB/sec
  MOS MacMini PPC G4 1500 MHz 184.3 MB/sec
  OS4 SAM PPC 460 1100 MHz 109.7 MB/sec
  OS4 SAM PPC 440 667 MHz 91.1 MB/sec
  OS4 Peg2 PPC G4 1000 MHz 80.6 MB/sec
  CyberStormPPC 68060@50 55.1 MB/sec
  Apollo 1240 68040@40 47.8 MB/sec
  FPGA ARCADE 29.0 MB/sec
  Blizzard 1230 68030@50 24.3 MB/sec
  Typhoon MK2 68030@40 18.8 MB/sec
  AMIGA 4000 68040@25 11.5 MB/sec
  AMIGA 1200 ACA 1220 10.9 MB/sec
  Zeus 68000 50 Mhz 9.1 MB/sec
  Note that speed increases with faster RAM, V4 models have DDR3! (vox)
 
  Also, Povray, P96 Speed, FXPaint
 
  Past FXPaint
  http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=2¬e=10624
 
  P96 test
  http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=2¬e=14103
 
  Some V4 results also please!
 
 
     

I have no idea what any of that means :) but thanks for posting, i can see the Vamp is at the top of the heap.




Marlon Beijer

Posts 160
08 Jan 2020 00:24


Knight Stone wrote:

thanks for sharin'  :)
 
  I was expecting it to score higher than a V2 A600, but the score is identical, i thought the V1200 used DDR ?
 
  just asking a question, excuse my ignorance, if the answer is obvious.  :)

V1200 is a V2 card. It's almost identical in design to V500 and V600. It has same amount of RAM, Cyclone III fpga, sdcard-slot, hdmi.

It does have 2 expansion slots instead of 1 and on-board ide + headers for reset and hdd and power leds.



Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1593
08 Jan 2020 06:18


Marlon Beijer wrote:

  It does have 2 expansion slots instead of 1 and on-board ide + headers for reset and hdd and power leds.
 

 
  Yes, +improved design, faster RAM and yes, should be bigger FPGA, thus the price difference.

Knight Stone wrote:
 
  I have no idea what any of that means :) but thanks for posting, i can see the Vamp is at the top of the heap.

It means really fast mem read to any past m68k sys and comparable to modern PPC (since test is not native on them, we cant say faaster, but I doubt CPU recompile would greatly change mem test results).

Its a real shining star of Vamp 080 design.

 


Andy Hearn

Posts 269
08 Jan 2020 08:58


Cheers for that little video! Canít wait for my email to come let alone the card :D


Mister Cartoonmonkey

Posts 31
08 Jan 2020 17:56


I have a CF card all ready to go with CoffinOS. Come on Vampire get here! Iíve got the proper model serial Wacom tablet and Iím hoping TVPaint just works with pressure. (On a freaking 1200!) Happy days.


Allonsanfan %

Posts 53
08 Jan 2020 18:00


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:
should be bigger FPGA, thus the price difference.

The card is existing so someone should be able to verify.

Is there a bigger FPGA?


Nixus Minimax

Posts 405
08 Jan 2020 19:09


Allonsanfan % wrote:

  Is there a bigger FPGA?

Yes, there is.


Sean Sk

Posts 322
08 Jan 2020 21:13


Huh? How can the V1200 FPGA be bigger when it's a Cyclone III just like the V500/V600?


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4450
08 Jan 2020 21:19


sean sk wrote:

Huh? How can the V1200 FPGA be bigger when it's a Cyclone III just like the V500/V600?

FPGA families are like BMW car models
A BMW 3 model - is offered with different size engine.



Allonsanfan %

Posts 53
08 Jan 2020 22:42


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

 
  FPGA families are like BMW car models
  A BMW 3 model - is offered with different size engine.
 

And which size engine is on the V1200 FPGA?


Ian Parsons

Posts 200
08 Jan 2020 23:31


The images on Majsta's site seem to have an EP3C55 on the 1200 and an EP3C40 on the 500.


Marlon Beijer

Posts 160
09 Jan 2020 00:10


Ian Parsons wrote:

The images on Majsta's site seem to have an EP3C55 on the 1200 and an EP3C40 on the 500.

V500/600 has a 40kLE Cyclone III while the V1200 has a 55kLE Cyclone III.

The extra room makes it more feasible to clock higher. Current core for V1200 is the 2.12rc3 x11 core for V500/V600 with some minor adjustments to talk with the A1200 bus and to use the 14MHz base clock instead of the 7MHz. Hence the performance is about the same as for those cards.

The team is still working hard to get V4SA as stable as possible, so the V2 (including V1200) will get some more love as soon as V4 is at an acceptable stable core. So we won't see the true potential of V1200 just yet, we'll have to wait a bit for that.


Sean Sk

Posts 322
09 Jan 2020 00:16


OK great! Thanks for clarifying! I was not aware of this, so learnt something new. Sounds awesome! :D



Nixus Minimax

Posts 405
09 Jan 2020 08:28


Marlon Beijer wrote:

  V500/600 has a 40kLE Cyclone III while the V1200 has a 55kLE Cyclone III.
 
  The extra room makes it more feasible to clock higher.

Ironically, the A1200 being the only currently vampirised AGA-Amiga is the first one to get an FPGA large enough to implement both a full FPU and AGA within the FPGA. Oh, the joys of hindsight... ;)


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