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| | Vojin Vidanovic (Needs Verification) Posts 1916/ 1 07 Sep 2019 13:55
| Video version of pics posted by Hugo Pereira in Vamped Amiga Telegram X channel EXTERNAL LINK Music: Lost Patrol Main Theme Remastered Showcases (opinions are mine not Hugos: 1) AW.net Amiga forum with a bit of censorship 2) Mobile Facebook - Spyware social net/media 3) Google - Search engine with ads Remember, not only in Soviet Union, software spies YOU! Except if you use Amiga and alternate websites! Websites: Ibrowse demo and downloads EXTERNAL LINK Netsurf 3.9 AmigaOS official and sources EXTERNAL LINK Artis Netsurf 3.9 supporting Vampire EXTERNAL LINK
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| | John William
Posts 563 07 Sep 2019 18:20
| Vojin Vidanovic wrote:
| Video version of pics posted by Hugo Pereira in Vamped Amiga Telegram X channel EXTERNAL LINK Music: Lost Patrol Main Theme Remastered Showcases (opinions are mine not Hugos: 1) AW.net Amiga forum with a bit of censorship 2) Mobile Facebook - Spyware social net/media 3) Google - Search engine with ads Remember, not only in Soviet Union, software spies YOU! Except if you use Amiga and alternate websites! Websites: Ibrowse demo and downloads EXTERNAL LINK Netsurf 3.9 AmigaOS official and sources EXTERNAL LINK Artis Netsurf 3.9 supporting Vampire EXTERNAL LINK |
I subscribed to Arczi monthly donation. I suggest each one of us do the same. If a total of 100 people donate just 20 bucks a month (think of it as a bill expense) to Arczi monthly he will make a total of 2,000 dollars a month. Think of the many games/apps he ported to the Amiga: Zelda series, Caveman, netsurf, etc. Picture many more he will bring if we constantly support him. Picture how better Netsurf will be if we support him. I have been able to view youtube the way it is, gmail, I have been able to browse ghitub or whatever it is called just like my laptop and view the source codes just fine. That is just the infancy of netsurf..imagine if we support it more, by supporting arczi..he will be able to activate java in later future, he will open up new features which means we will actually have a chrome like or firefox like browser for the Amiga 68k. The endless possibilities...well...endless.
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| | Rob M
Posts 60 07 Sep 2019 18:23
| It would be nice to see the speed at which each browser loads pages that IBrowse can render correctly.
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| | John William
Posts 563 07 Sep 2019 18:25
| Rob M wrote:
| It would be nice to see the speed at which each browser loads pages that IBrowse can render correctly.
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Give it time....there is so much one person can do. Besides...it maybe faster with v4 who knows...there is a race now between software and hardware...be patient...enjoy the OTHER POSITIVE attributes of netsurf that is more superior over ibrowse. The only thing now ibrowse hold strong over netsurf is speed ....
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| | Tim Trepanier
Posts 132 07 Sep 2019 18:38
| John William wrote:
| he will be able to activate java in later future
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Do you mean javascript? Java is dead on the web. It's a major security problem and all major browsers have removed it.
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| | John William
Posts 563 07 Sep 2019 19:32
| Tim Trepanier wrote:
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John William wrote:
| he will be able to activate java in later future |
Do you mean javascript? Java is dead on the web. It's a major security problem and all major browsers have removed it.
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Javascript, yes.
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| | Artur Jarosik (Apollo Team Member) Posts 94 07 Sep 2019 20:25
| Vojin Vidanovic wrote:
| Artis Netsurf 3.9 supporting Vampire EXTERNAL LINK
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That is link to Chris's Young version.Mine is here EXTERNAL LINK
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| | Gunnar von Boehn (Apollo Team Member) Posts 6207 07 Sep 2019 21:26
| The idea to compare is good. Maybe less fading in, so one can better see the comparison and maybe testing more popular websites like e.g. : EBAY AMAZON CNN.com slashdot.com theregister.co.uk YOUTUBE and of course apollo-accelerators.com
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| | John William
Posts 563 07 Sep 2019 23:23
| OP can you use Artur version and do what Gunnar suggested and make new videos?
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| | Vojin Vidanovic (Needs Verification) Posts 1916/ 1 07 Sep 2019 23:46
| Rob M wrote:
| It would be nice to see the speed at which each browser loads pages that IBrowse can render correctly.
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Ibrowse is waaay faster at heavy price. I dont have elgato or some good enough sw video recorder for m68k, just like you. You can ask MsMad Lemon, she has necessary equip. EXTERNAL LINK
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| | Vojin Vidanovic (Needs Verification) Posts 1916/ 1 07 Sep 2019 23:46
| Artur Jarosik wrote:
| Vojin Vidanovic wrote:
| Artis Netsurf 3.9 supporting Vampire EXTERNAL LINK |
That is link to Chris's Young version. Mine is here EXTERNAL LINK |
My bad, thanks. On the video I hope I got it correctly, unlike the post.Gunnar von Boehn wrote:
| The idea to compare is good. Maybe less fading in, so one can better see the comparison and maybe testing more popular websites like e.g. : EBAY AMAZON CNN.com slashdot.com theregister.co.uk YOUTUBE and of course apollo-accelerators.com
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You could ask MsMad Lemon (Maddie if I got name right), would be sweet. Ibrowse has a flash plugin to test :)
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| | Vojin Vidanovic (Needs Verification) Posts 1916/ 1 08 Sep 2019 00:00
| Tim Trepanier wrote:
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John William wrote:
| he will be able to activate java in later future |
Do you mean javascript? Java is dead on the web. It's a major security problem and all major browsers have removed it.
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Arti loves you :) sobota, 7 września 2019 Netsurf 3.10 Dev * Updated to newest sources. * Integrated AmiSSL 4.3 for https support. Note: make sure you have current time and local region set on your WB. * Enabled very basic JavaScript support (default is off).
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| | Thomas Blatt
Posts 200 08 Sep 2019 09:25
| Netsurf 3.10 works not stable. I tried it
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| | Vojin Vidanovic (Needs Verification) Posts 1916/ 1 08 Sep 2019 13:40
| Thomas Blatt wrote:
| Netsurf 3.10 works not stable. I tried it
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Yes its development release. Report bugs to arti and it shall be "ironed". Javascript Is first time on Amiga, so itd understandable
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| | Robert Markus
Posts 18 09 Sep 2019 13:42
| John William wrote:
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Vojin Vidanovic wrote:
| Video version of pics posted by Hugo Pereira in Vamped Amiga Telegram X channel EXTERNAL LINK Music: Lost Patrol Main Theme Remastered Showcases (opinions are mine not Hugos: 1) AW.net Amiga forum with a bit of censorship 2) Mobile Facebook - Spyware social net/media 3) Google - Search engine with ads Remember, not only in Soviet Union, software spies YOU! Except if you use Amiga and alternate websites! Websites: Ibrowse demo and downloads EXTERNAL LINK Netsurf 3.9 AmigaOS official and sources EXTERNAL LINK Artis Netsurf 3.9 supporting Vampire EXTERNAL LINK |
I subscribed to Arczi monthly donation. I suggest each one of us do the same. If a total of 100 people donate just 20 bucks a month (think of it as a bill expense) to Arczi monthly he will make a total of 2,000 dollars a month. Think of the many games/apps he ported to the Amiga: Zelda series, Caveman, netsurf, etc. Picture many more he will bring if we constantly support him. Picture how better Netsurf will be if we support him. I have been able to view youtube the way it is, gmail, I have been able to browse ghitub or whatever it is called just like my laptop and view the source codes just fine. That is just the infancy of netsurf..imagine if we support it more, by supporting arczi..he will be able to activate java in later future, he will open up new features which means we will actually have a chrome like or firefox like browser for the Amiga 68k. The endless possibilities...well...endless.
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I have made a small amount of donate too. It should be advertises on vampire fb group where are almost 2000 member. If everyone donate 1 buck pro month it gives the 2000/month :)
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| | John William
Posts 563 09 Sep 2019 17:59
| Robert Markus wrote:
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John William wrote:
| Vojin Vidanovic wrote:
| Video version of pics posted by Hugo Pereira in Vamped Amiga Telegram X channel EXTERNAL LINK Music: Lost Patrol Main Theme Remastered Showcases (opinions are mine not Hugos: 1) AW.net Amiga forum with a bit of censorship 2) Mobile Facebook - Spyware social net/media 3) Google - Search engine with ads Remember, not only in Soviet Union, software spies YOU! Except if you use Amiga and alternate websites! Websites: Ibrowse demo and downloads EXTERNAL LINK Netsurf 3.9 AmigaOS official and sources EXTERNAL LINK Artis Netsurf 3.9 supporting Vampire EXTERNAL LINK |
I subscribed to Arczi monthly donation. I suggest each one of us do the same. If a total of 100 people donate just 20 bucks a month (think of it as a bill expense) to Arczi monthly he will make a total of 2,000 dollars a month. Think of the many games/apps he ported to the Amiga: Zelda series, Caveman, netsurf, etc. Picture many more he will bring if we constantly support him. Picture how better Netsurf will be if we support him. I have been able to view youtube the way it is, gmail, I have been able to browse ghitub or whatever it is called just like my laptop and view the source codes just fine. That is just the infancy of netsurf..imagine if we support it more, by supporting arczi..he will be able to activate java in later future, he will open up new features which means we will actually have a chrome like or firefox like browser for the Amiga 68k. The endless possibilities...well...endless. |
I have made a small amount of donate too. It should be advertises on vampire fb group where are almost 2000 member. If everyone donate 1 buck pro month it gives the 2000/month :)
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Let us doooooooooo iiiiiiiiiittttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| | Vojin Vidanovic (Needs Verification) Posts 1916/ 1 12 Sep 2019 13:01
| Most important - Artis patron page EXTERNAL LINK Added to video description and commentsWill join it in 2020
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| | Rob M
Posts 60 12 Sep 2019 21:18
| Vojin Vidanovic wrote:
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Rob M wrote:
| It would be nice to see the speed at which each browser loads pages that IBrowse can render correctly. |
Ibrowse is waaay faster at heavy price. I dont have elgato or some good enough sw video recorder for m68k, just like you. You can ask MsMad Lemon, she has necessary equip. EXTERNAL LINK
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I just wanted to know if IB was faster because it could mean that IB3 would be faster too but it's pretty moot now since the Amiga News de interview with Oliver Roberts were he said there is no guarantee that IB3 will ever happen. Better to support those that are actively working on a compliant browser.
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| | Vojin Vidanovic (Needs Verification) Posts 1916/ 1 12 Sep 2019 21:52
| I suppose 3.0 is heavily dependent on current Ibrowse sales, nothing against that. Just kind a feel its OS4 users bullet, once TW is abandoned, as well as Odyssey port to OS4. Again: Ibrowse has faster render and is more lightweight, but its kinda expected since has older HTML engine etc. I wonder how does it compete to my fav of days Voyager NG! EXTERNAL LINK Major changes to Voyager since Version 1.0: · Supports Frames as introduced by Netscape 2.x. · Supports Secure Socket Layer SSL encrypted http transfers ("https:" scheme). Uses full strength 128 bit encryption. Can use the MiamiSSL library provided with Miami 2.1 to support SSL even for US citizens. · Uses internal image decoding routines for JPEG, GIF (non-USA version only) and PNG. Visually incremental on-the-fly image decoding, leaving the program operational during decode. No more hassle with datatypes related bugs. Optimized memory usage. The routines are optimized for speed and are very fast. Full support of CyberGFX and Picasso 96 HiColor/TrueColor screens. · Supports HTML tables. Many more HTML commands and Netscapism's are understood (including FONT SIZE and HR WIDTH). Improved general compatibility with broken and nonstandard HTML code. · Supports versatile plugin interface for vanilla extensions · Shipped with a web search engine plugin · Supports T/TCP "TCP for Transactions" requests, allowing for much faster establishment of HTTP links to servers. This is currently supported by Miami 2.x only. Specified in RFC 1644. As far as we know, Voyager is the first browser on any platform supporting this! · Totally reworked preference setting. The transfer anim is now configurable, too. · Supports Shift & Click downloading of files even from servers with broken configuration which state that binary data is of type "text/plain" (which happens frequently with .lha and .lzx files, because these suffixes are missing in many http server example mime.types files) · Popup menus for links offering link specific options. · Added internal SMTP send capability. Also supports mailto: forms now. Improved news handling. · Many minor enhancements, and of course All The Popular Bugs were fixed, too. A full list of changes is included in the archive. That would be fairer compo :) To Voyager side!
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| | John William
Posts 563 13 Sep 2019 00:48
| Vojin Vidanovic wrote:
| I suppose 3.0 is heavily dependent on current Ibrowse sales, nothing against that. Just kind a feel its OS4 users bullet, once TW is abandoned, as well as Odyssey port to OS4. Again: Ibrowse has faster render and is more lightweight, but its kinda expected since has older HTML engine etc. I wonder how does it compete to my fav of days Voyager NG! EXTERNAL LINK Major changes to Voyager since Version 1.0: · Supports Frames as introduced by Netscape 2.x. · Supports Secure Socket Layer SSL encrypted http transfers ("https:" scheme). Uses full strength 128 bit encryption. Can use the MiamiSSL library provided with Miami 2.1 to support SSL even for US citizens. · Uses internal image decoding routines for JPEG, GIF (non-USA version only) and PNG. Visually incremental on-the-fly image decoding, leaving the program operational during decode. No more hassle with datatypes related bugs. Optimized memory usage. The routines are optimized for speed and are very fast. Full support of CyberGFX and Picasso 96 HiColor/TrueColor screens. · Supports HTML tables. Many more HTML commands and Netscapism's are understood (including FONT SIZE and HR WIDTH). Improved general compatibility with broken and nonstandard HTML code. · Supports versatile plugin interface for vanilla extensions · Shipped with a web search engine plugin · Supports T/TCP "TCP for Transactions" requests, allowing for much faster establishment of HTTP links to servers. This is currently supported by Miami 2.x only. Specified in RFC 1644. As far as we know, Voyager is the first browser on any platform supporting this! · Totally reworked preference setting. The transfer anim is now configurable, too. · Supports Shift & Click downloading of files even from servers with broken configuration which state that binary data is of type "text/plain" (which happens frequently with .lha and .lzx files, because these suffixes are missing in many http server example mime.types files) · Popup menus for links offering link specific options. · Added internal SMTP send capability. Also supports mailto: forms now. Improved news handling. · Many minor enhancements, and of course All The Popular Bugs were fixed, too. A full list of changes is included in the archive. That would be fairer compo :) To Voyager side!
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pfff...voyagor...... here is what we should...make a kickstarter campaign...get enough money...hire competent assembly/c programmer for Amiga... merge Chris and Artur into one SUPER BROWSER. What do I mean by that? Chris browser version have what ibrowse have..light weight, MUI, menu, ability to open multiple tab, etc, etc, etc.....but it is sooo buggy...so .......defective...unstable...etc....it just....aaaah! Take Arti's superior version and take that engine and put the skin of Chris's interface and have a good download management system like you see in modern browsers or even what you see in iBrowse and you my friend have the "iBrowse 4.0 Professional Edition" for the Amiga 68k exclusive. If you know what I mean. Now make this browser super smart...much like the current one you see now with Arti's version...it either throws a balloon bubble telling you a new version of Netsurf is available and you click on the balloon bubble and it sends you to a link where you download the new full executable package. You download it..install it...and poof bang you get new version of the browser...OR it prompts a dialog box saying you have new version of Netsurf like you have now and simply updates the new changes and bang..bingo. Now your Amiga's 68k browser problem is no more..it is catching up with modern platforms for better browser for the Amiga 68k platform and it behaves like a normal modern standard devices you see in 2019. This grabbing for old browsers like ibrowse or voyager becomes unnecessary and even you feel..silly grabbing for obsolete......unsupported platform. You might even go as far as request aminet to delete these outdated browsers from the network so they disappear from human history. I say...if we all work together..holding hand, mind and body and link like one giant network..make the best flash kickstarter campaign and get the best programmers out there...we may have better browsers even than AmigaOS 4.x or MorphOS.....they might even ask to have our browsers be ported TO THEIR PLATFORM..... I don't mind such browser to achieve perfection by being a commercial browser (Netsurf) that comes in disc or digital download...as long as it is light years ahead of ibrowse then it is worth every dime spend buying it. We already spending on hardware, why not software?
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