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Simo Koivukoski
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 601
02 Nov 2018 21:53


Testing games on standalone V4, Quake 2 AGA (Beta core x11).

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Vojin Vidanovic
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Posts 1916/ 1
03 Nov 2018 04:45


Its slow, but working. Can only become better with core optimizations. Quake 2 engine here we come!
 
  I am not a big fan of game - Quake simply went wrong with story by going to space. 3D engine got better and spawned great games -
  which in time and model development could come to Vamps.
 
      Heretic II (1998) by Raven Software
      SiN (1998) by Ritual Entertainment
      SiN: Wages of Sin (1999) by Ritual Entertainment
      Kingpin: Life of Crime (1999) by Xatrix Entertainment
      Soldier of Fortune (2000) by Raven Software
      Daikatana (2000) by Ion Storm
      Anachronox (2001) by Ion Storm
 
  Games based on the GPL source release
 
      UFO: Alien Invasion (2003) by UFO: Alien Invasion Team
      Gravity Bone (2008) by Blendo Games
      Warsow (2012) by Warsow Team
      Thirty Flights of Loving (2012) by Blendo Games
      Alien Arena: Warriors of Mars (2017) by COR Entertainment

Thomas Jensen wrote:
  looks good, where can I find the exact design specs? 

A bit old but yet valid v4 announcement PDF
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Thomas Jensen wrote:
  how about floppy support, will I need a real amiga mainboard for that?
 

No can do at present times. My best idea is X1000 floppy pack - IDE Castweasel that has OS3 drivers.

Thomas Jensen wrote:
  would a barebone amiga reloaded motherboard work as a mainboard for the V4?

Unknown, but less likely - that would be Q for A Reloaded team once Standalone is out. Reloaded is made for A1200 mobo.
 
Thomas Jensen wrote:
  is it true that I can use any USB mouse, USB joystick and USB keyboard on the V4 ? (assuming standard USB HID)

Well, most of supported by AmigaOS USB stacks. USB keyboard is mandatory at present model, to my a bit sadness since 2 ports. I love those two Atari style connectors. USB is too precious to be wasted on KB and mmouse.
         
Thomas Jensen wrote:
  my goal would be to use it as an NG Amiga, but with brand new hardware (hence reloaded if V4 does not support floppy) as well as the option of reading my old floppies...

If you love floppy and Classic abilities my suggestion is A500 and V4 model for it, its far easier route, plus ability to use serial, parallel which is lost on Standalone.

 
Thomas Jensen wrote:
  what are the additional smaller connectors on top?

See schematics, board has 2xIDE, 2xUSB, CPU expansion and LAN.
         
 
Thomas Jensen wrote:
what about power for IDE devices? if an ATX supply is needed, then a solution to power the board from ATX would be needed yes?

This is a good question, board uses "mobile charger" miniUSB, I hope it can stand a catweasel with floppy, an SSD and DVDRW with IDE splitters and slave modes.
       
 
 
Thomas Jensen wrote:
  I could see how a microATX or MiniITX version of the board would be usefull, would require some way to use floppy though.. ie. like support for a USB KryoFlux

More standardized board format and PSU connector would solve a lot of small troubles, but maybe next time.

For now, we have to be modders a bit - but end results are great


Simo Koivukoski
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 601
03 Nov 2018 22:39


Standalone bring-up, x15 beta core test with the AIBB BeachBall.




Andrew Miller

Posts 352
04 Nov 2018 04:04


So you're saying its a bit faster then? XD.

I knew it would be faster, didnt expect it to be that much faster, thought maybe a couple of times the speed.


Nicolas Sipieter
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Posts 115/ 1
04 Nov 2018 08:23


how much scores the current v500v2 core 2.11 with the same beachball test ?


Simo Koivukoski
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 601
04 Nov 2018 09:11


Vampire V4 Standalone USB Mouse and DB9 Joystick testing
 
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Szyk Cech

Posts 191
04 Nov 2018 11:55


Simo Koivukoski wrote:

  Standalone bring-up, x15
 

  142,3/7,14 = 19,93


Simo Koivukoski
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 601
04 Nov 2018 12:09


Szyk Cech wrote:

Simo Koivukoski wrote:

  Standalone bring-up, x15
 

  142,3/7,14 = 19,93

Better to use VControl for the MHz detecting... :)


Captain Zalo

Posts 71
04 Nov 2018 14:14


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

   
Thomas Jensen wrote:
  I could see how a microATX or MiniITX version of the board would be usefull, would require some way to use floppy though.. ie. like support for a USB KryoFlux
 

 
  More standardized board format and PSU connector would solve a lot of small troubles, but maybe next time.
 
  For now, we have to be modders a bit - but end results are great
 

 
  It's not much more trouble than mounting the V4 in a custom adapterboard that fits mITX form factor chassis, then using breakout cables to a backplane for port access.
  Since it looks like the V4 runs on microUSB power, I don't see any reason to bother with SFX/ATX PSU conversion. Yet.

EDIT: And grats to the team for airing some delicious V4 teasers!


M Rickan

Posts 177
04 Nov 2018 18:31


Captain Zalo wrote:

  It's not much more trouble than mounting the V4 in a custom adapterboard that fits mITX form factor chassis...

I can see that being an immediate seller.


Captain Zalo

Posts 71
04 Nov 2018 18:55


m rickan wrote:

Captain Zalo wrote:

    It's not much more trouble than mounting the V4 in a custom adapterboard that fits mITX form factor chassis...
 

 
  I can see that being an immediate seller.

I agree. I don't see why it hasn't been crowdsourced a long time ago. That'll make the V4 sell itself to way more people than the choir.

The adapterboard doesn't have to be more than a laser-etched plexiglass plate with grooves for ATX-standoffs and some standard brass spacers to secure the V4.

We just need some handy people to step up to the bat and make the kit, a backplane that is ATX compliant and source breakout cables. Doesn't have to be very expensive either, and it opens up the V4 to a plethora of snug cases.


Eric Gus

Posts 477
05 Nov 2018 04:49


Captain Zalo wrote:

 
m rickan wrote:

 
Captain Zalo wrote:

      It's not much more trouble than mounting the V4 in a custom adapterboard that fits mITX form factor chassis...
   

   
    I can see that being an immediate seller.
 

 
 
  I agree. I don't see why it hasn't been crowdsourced a long time ago. That'll make the V4 sell itself to way more people than the choir.
 
  The adapterboard doesn't have to be more than a laser-etched plexiglass plate with grooves for ATX-standoffs and some standard brass spacers to secure the V4.
 
  We just need some handy people to step up to the bat and make the kit, a backplane that is ATX compliant and source breakout cables. Doesn't have to be very expensive either, and it opens up the V4 to a plethora of snug cases.
 

  Could probably 3d print that too ..
 


Gildo Addox

Posts 31
05 Nov 2018 07:38


Looks amazing!

2 Questions:

1. Does it fit into the PiTop? (https://pi-top.com/products/pi-top)

2. Are there any information about I/O (Is there any kind of GPIO?), so I could start writing the drivers for the PiTop inteface?


Thomas Jensen

Posts 3
05 Nov 2018 12:23


Gildo Addox wrote:

        Looks amazing!
       
        2 Questions:
       
        1. Does it fit into the PiTop? (https://pi-top.com/products/pi-top)
       
        2. Are there any information about I/O (Is there any kind of GPIO?), so I could start writing the drivers for the PiTop inteface?
       

       
        IF you manage that, then I will be very interested.. I have the first version of the Pi-Top laptop "shell" (and no, not the green version hehe)
     
     
Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

      No can do at present times. My best idea is X1000 floppy pack - IDE Castweasel that has OS3 drivers.
       

       
        As for the Vampire V4, will both the stand alone and the A500 version support USB keyboards?
       
        I realize that people might wish to use the USB ports for other stuff as well.. but for me it would be very nice, since it would allow me external keyboard on an A500 computer, like I have on my A1200 computers
       
      as for the stand alone, I am hoping that somehow, the kryflux guys, would want to write some drivers for their USB floppy solution, so that it would work in AmigaOS...
     
      I guess a kryoflux solution would require the USB ports to be handled by poseidon inside AmigaOS... unless some weird collaboration occured between you guys and the kryoflux guys.. effectively turning the kryoflux in to a "native" floppy controller
     
    the catweasel solution might be difficult to find.. I have a catweasel v4 in pci version... but I do not see how a V4 standalone could talk to that :)
   
      are the USB ports tied to poseidon in Amiga OS or would a USB keyboard bypass AmigaOS and talk direktly to the "68080" ?
       
        In the case of a keyboard, it would be an advantage that a USB keyboard talked directly to the system without the need for OS or drivers.. like the SumUSB... But that would tie up one of the USB ports
       
        on the other hand, maybe one USB port could be for a fixed number of stuff directly talking to the system (ie. with a HUB: USB serial?, USB parallel?, USB keyboard, USB mouse, USB joystick, USB kryoflux?)
   
    and one could be for stuff that needs USB stack (ie. with a HUB: external harddrive, external DVD drive, USB headset, USB graphics card?, USB ? ... and maybe many more)
       
    these are all just suggestions and I understand if some or indeed all of this is just not feasible...
   
    would be interesting if it were possible to talk to GPIO devices though... maybe using some sort of USB adaptor or some other kind of extension perhaps
 
  I guess the Vampire V4 for Amiga 500 would also work on the AmyITX motherboard, since it is essentially an Amiga 500 in ITX form factor...
 
  the Vampire V2 for Amiga 500 worked fine on the AmyITX.. sadly I missed out on the AmyITX...

I will be ordering an A500 Vampire V4 ASAP though


Haydar YÜKSEL

Posts 21
05 Nov 2018 17:36


Will there be a clock battery in the Vampire Standalone?


M Rickan

Posts 177
05 Nov 2018 23:49


eric gus wrote:

  Could probably 3d print that too ..

I've attempted something similar with another project and found that the prints were subject to warping and the presentation was iffy.

Oddly enough, a dumbed-down PCB is very resilient, cost effective in volume and would open up the door for additional logic/components.



Gildo Addox

Posts 31
08 Nov 2018 09:25


No answers to my questions? Thanks for helping.

Gildo Addox wrote:

Looks amazing!
 
  2 Questions:
 
  1. Does it fit into the PiTop? (https://pi-top.com/products/pi-top)
 
  2. Are there any information about I/O (Is there any kind of GPIO?), so I could start writing the drivers for the PiTop inteface?




Simo Koivukoski
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 601
08 Nov 2018 12:46


4MB of Chip RAM is enabled:




Gildo Addox

Posts 31
08 Nov 2018 13:12


Amazing! 4MB Chip RAM - this is awesone news!


Vojin Vidanovic
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Posts 1916/ 1
08 Nov 2018 18:09


Simo Koivukoski wrote:

  4MB of Chip RAM is enabled:
 

BOARDS None also sounds so nice, like its all natural :-)

  Great news another barrier has been squashed and that is FAST Chip RAM? ;-)
 
  Can we still expect ~500MB FAST DDR3 -4MB Chip mapped - MapROM mem?

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