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Jonny Pulli

Posts 50
23 Aug 2018 04:16


wawa t wrote:

a better browser is only available if you install aros on your amiga. aros owb has a fork of 9 years old webkit engine. and it will work within 128mb ram. i have tested it on my a4000. but it will be slow. i also have odyssey 1.25 compiling for m68k already. but it crashes. which isnt unexpected since it wasnt even ported to morphos or os4 due to endian problems. and, even if i ever get it working, it wont have the same footprint as owb, neither what concerns memory requirements nor speed, as you might expect.

Thanks! ill try that AROS :)



Jonny Pulli

Posts 50
23 Aug 2018 04:18


eric gus wrote:

Also bear in mind the modern internet/webpages are MASSIVE for the modest resources of something like even a Vampireized amiga, facebook alone needs like 500mb ram to work "ok" .. a 128mb ram vampire isn't going to deal with it well.. at best using netsurf you **might** be able to get some mobile versions of websites (like m.facebook.com) to load but without full support of modern browser features like javascript/CSS your result is not going to be on a par even with your mobile phone.. The Amiga was never intended to go onto the internet, let alone the current modern internet which is orders of complexity and size larger than when it first appeared back in the twilight of the Amiga's original time.. So really enjoy what you can get but don't put a lot of hopes into having a modern web surfing experience on an amiga.. its just not really capable of it ..

Yes i know that modern webpages are huge! I just want to se what the Wampire can do, love testing things! But thanks! :)



Wawa T

Posts 695
23 Aug 2018 20:36


Jonny Pulli wrote:

  Thanks! ill try that AROS :)

you may need few things though:
1. apollo team has their rtg driver, probably an p96 driver. you need to get hold of it and modify aros startup-sequence, adding at the beginning of it someting like:

SYS:boot/amiga/AROSBootstrap SYS:boot/amiga/aros.hunk.gz somepath/vampire-or-saga.card

certainly there is someone who can give you better details on that.
2. best is to disable decoration/skins, as this is cpu consuming, aros default skin is ugly and without skins it looks more amiga anyway. thisis done deleting
Prefs/Env-Archive/SYS/theme.var
or in prefs/appearance.

also disable backgrounds on windows and workbench/wanderer in prefs/wanderer, use background pen/color instead, or choose some lighter images. as the default ones take aeons to load.

3. as far as im informed a reworked ata.device is underway. so it might fix boot problems experienced with vampire. you might want to wait till it arrives.



Jonny Pulli

Posts 50
25 Aug 2018 09:05


wawa t wrote:

Jonny Pulli wrote:

  Thanks! ill try that AROS :)
 

 
  you may need few things though:
  1. apollo team has their rtg driver, probably an p96 driver. you need to get hold of it and modify aros startup-sequence, adding at the beginning of it someting like:
 

  SYS:boot/amiga/AROSBootstrap SYS:boot/amiga/aros.hunk.gz somepath/vampire-or-saga.card
 

  certainly there is someone who can give you better details on that.
  2. best is to disable decoration/skins, as this is cpu consuming, aros default skin is ugly and without skins it looks more amiga anyway. thisis done deleting
  Prefs/Env-Archive/SYS/theme.var
  or in prefs/appearance.
 
  also disable backgrounds on windows and workbench/wanderer in prefs/wanderer, use background pen/color instead, or choose some lighter images. as the default ones take aeons to load.
 
  3. as far as im informed a reworked ata.device is underway. so it might fix boot problems experienced with vampire. you might want to wait till it arrives.
 

Oops is AROS a OS? I dont think i would go that way..... ;)


Andrew Miller

Posts 352
25 Aug 2018 14:34


Out of interest what sort of speed do you get from the ENC28J60 Module?
Would it be fast enough to say transfer files from a NAS drive without being tedious?


Jonny Pulli

Posts 50
25 Aug 2018 17:20


Andrew Miller wrote:

Out of interest what sort of speed do you get from the ENC28J60 Module?
  Would it be fast enough to say transfer files from a NAS drive without being tedious?

I dont know how to do a test of speed....... if you know please tell me, and i will do the test!



Andrew Miller

Posts 352
25 Aug 2018 17:42


I suppose the old school way would be to find a large file and time how long it takes to download/ transfer it.
Do any Amiga browsers show the download rate?


Martin Soerensen

Posts 232
26 Aug 2018 10:23


AmiFTP will show the download rate, so just transfer a 5-10 MB file and you should get a fairly accurate measure.


Eric Gus

Posts 477
27 Aug 2018 07:59


We did some timing tests in the SMBSF thread .. both UPLOADING and DOWNLOADING .. which did give different speeds..


Francesco Lemmi

Posts 58
13 Oct 2018 16:59


Hi to all, this is my first post here, I hope to get some help :)
 
  I have an A500, Vampire V2+, ENC28J60 Module, Coffin R53 and core Gold 2.10.
  The ENC28J60 Module is the 3.3V model, the same one reported on the Wiki.Apollo.
 
  I connected all the dupont wires to expansion port of Vampire, ar reported in guideline, and the network cable to my router.
 
  It seems all working (power on ENC28J60 Module, green light on ethernet led, blinking orange light on the opposite side of ethernet led). Also v2expethtest gives me good result.
 
  But I do not know how I can add my net interface since I cannot find the v2expeth.device.
It is correctly present in Devs:Networks as well as SDnet.device.
Also SDnet.device is not reported in the list of net interfaces available, so I'm blocked at this point.
 
  I used the wizard to add a net interface.
 
  Any suggestion? I'm not so expertise in configuring network interface in Amiga classic so can you please explain me step by step?
 
  Thank you :)


Kresimir Lukin

Posts 65
13 Oct 2018 19:49


I hope this will help

EXTERNAL LINK


Francesco Lemmi

Posts 58
14 Oct 2018 07:59


Thak you Kremisir, I'll try later.
Is this method applicable also with Coffin R53 and core Gold 2.10?
I mean, do I need V2ethernet+ net interface from saga driver 1.3?

As I've written under your video I don't understand why I have to rename AdrianeII netinterface.

Anyway I'll try to follow your video instructions :)


Kresimir Lukin

Posts 65
14 Oct 2018 10:06


Video is not mine, I have found it and follow when I first time connect to net with V2 500.
  I didn't rename AdrianeeII interface, I was using Coffin 53 and Gold 10
  I have tried trial roadshow what comes with R53, but that work just for 8 minutes
  You need to purchase full version, or use something else


Francesco Lemmi

Posts 58
14 Oct 2018 19:47


Thank you, I solved thanks to this video.
As soon as possible I'll purchase the full version of roadshow :)


Eric Gus

Posts 477
15 Oct 2018 07:10


Francesco Lemmi wrote:

Thank you, I solved thanks to this video.
  As soon as possible I'll purchase the full version of roadshow :)

I opted to use Miami and not purchase roadshow .. works fine with Miami too.


Andy Hearn

Posts 374
15 Oct 2018 10:25


running Roadshow and Genesis on Apollo 2.10 core with r53 just fine.
remote desktop works like a dream - although windows server2012/2016 takes some adjustment to in a 640x480 or 800x600 window. 2008r2 is perfectly serviceable.

netsurf "arti" works fine - although it choked when I tried to get into the teamviewer website.

smb-mounter seems to lockup on my vamp, but works like a champ on my A3k?

suggest if you are going to use the browser (netsurf) in any seriousness beyond just seeing if it works, upping your vampire's  RTG graphics ram to 8 meg. That way if netsurf falls over it won't mean you need to reboot due to only having 200kb left.

as always, your mileage may vary - but that's just what I've found so far in my use cases

enjoy the net! having direct access to just aminet and not swapping SD cards all the time is definitely worth the price of admission!

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