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Michal Warzecha
Posts 209
28 Jun 2016 21:28
| It's definetly broken. Send back to fix this :D
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Manuel Jesus
Posts 155
28 Jun 2016 21:33
| I hate you...
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Michael Nurney
Posts 283
28 Jun 2016 21:47
| Awesome!! A record so far ?
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Tim Kovack
Posts 47
29 Jun 2016 16:31
| So it just runs faster or do you have it overclocked?
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Alan Haynes
Posts 140
30 Jun 2016 06:57
| I think he has re-written SYSInfo and AIBB to fake it. Ha! Ha!
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Brian Robotham
Posts 52
30 Jun 2016 13:17
| thanks for the belief in me that i am capable to rewrite it lol. would be nice to have that level of programming knowledge. It has been a long time since i opened an assembler
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Grzegorz Wójcik (pisklak
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 87
30 Jun 2016 13:18
| Hmm... watchout non-belivers ! Some Vampire may bite you in the butt ! ;-)
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Claudio Guglielmotti
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 185
30 Jun 2016 13:22
| Alan Haynes wrote:
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I think he has re-written SYSInfo and AIBB to fake it. Ha! Ha!
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right !
Brian, i want to see the movie of sysinfo
and not a dpainted picture !!!
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Chris Jones
Posts 11
30 Jun 2016 13:41
| Tim Kovack wrote:
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So it just runs faster or do you have it overclocked?
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Each FPGA chip is capable of different speeds. All of the v600s that kipper sells are capable of 11x speed, the Black ones are capable of 13x speed. He has one magical board that for some reason is stable up to 16x-17x. That's what these screenshots are from.
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John Heritage
Posts 111
30 Jun 2016 15:00
| What % of the FPGA is Vampire using out of curiosity?
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Thierry Atheist
Posts 644
01 Jul 2016 00:30
| Chris Jones wrote:
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Tim Kovack wrote:
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So it just runs faster or do you have it overclocked?
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Each FPGA chip is capable of different speeds. All of the v600s that kipper sells are capable of 11x speed, the Black ones are capable of 13x speed. He has one magical board that for some reason is stable up to 16x-17x. That's what these screenshots are from.
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At 16x, that is 45% faster than the 11x.The Arria 10 is going to be 2 to 3 times faster than the current 11x. The 16x FPGA is close to the bottom end of the Arria 10. Still, the Arria 10 boards have 2 advantages.... 1 gigabyte of RAM and they will be standalone boards, having NO DEPENDENCE on the (antique) Amigas that we have to use today as a base to run the Vampire ][ accelerators on now. STILL LOTS OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT!!!! WOOO HOOO!!!!!
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Alan Haynes
Posts 140
01 Jul 2016 08:17
| This is fantastic and after I get my a500+ and A2000 fitted out I will be looking for a stand alone board. This Aria board sounds awesome however I have heard that Intel has purchased Altera and the prices of the FPGA's has nearly doubled.
EXTERNAL LINK
Will that affect this Aria chip. Who makes it Thierry?
Cheers from Australia
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Alan Haynes
Posts 140
01 Jul 2016 08:21
| Sorry everyone I just answered my own question. The Aria 10 is made by Altera EXTERNAL LINK
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Thierry Atheist
Posts 644
01 Jul 2016 09:05
| Alan Haynes wrote:
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This is fantastic and after I get my a500+ and A2000 fitted out I will be looking for a stand alone board. This Aria board sounds awesome however I have heard that Intel has purchased Altera and the prices of the FPGA's has nearly doubled. |
Hi Alan,Well, if the prices will nearly double (sounds criminal, underhanded and SUSPICIOUS TO MOTIVE to me) I think that the price of the standalone board was announced long after the acquisition was finalised (date available in your link, Dec. 2015).
Alan Haynes wrote:
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EXTERNAL LINK
Will that affect this Aria chip. Who makes it Thierry?Cheers from Australia
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Oh, and yet TWO MORE advantages... MORE "LE"s (errr, I think so, anyway (who knows what you're getting, when they make these releases, there are 20+ variants to choose from)) AND "... and up to 40% lower power than the previous generation"!!!
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Martin Soerensen
Posts 232
01 Jul 2016 15:31
| Thierry Atheist wrote:
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I don't think the price jump has much to do with the acquisition. It is very common that when a product reaches end-of-life that the price will take a big jump. They stop the production but as they want to keep some stock to handle warranty etc., they will up the price so much to stop people from buying too many as they cannot make new ones any longer. But they will normally have a replacement part ready for people to buy instead.The 1541-Ultimate II cartridge had a similar problem with the price of the FPGA skyrocketing, so he had to make a new design with a new FPGA chip. This is probably what will be required for the Vampire as well. You can still also buy new 060 CPUs from Freescale, but they are very expensive..
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Thierry Atheist
Posts 644
01 Jul 2016 22:53
| Martin Soerensen wrote:
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I don't think the price jump has much to do with the acquisition. It is very common that when a product reaches end-of-life that the price will take a big jump. They stop the production but as they want to keep some stock to handle warranty etc., ...
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Hi Martin,You misunderstood my accusation. I am referring to the newest FPGA, the Arria 10. Accusation being along the lines of.... They want you to buy THEIR 80586 and 80686 etc. chips, NOT you work out YOUR OWN custom solutions then go make ASICs of your own design.... bypassing what they offer and spent billions upon billions of dollars researching/producing. (Thus forcing you to go the 64, x86, win-dos route of computing horror.)
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Alan Haynes
Posts 140
01 Jul 2016 22:53
| Got it. So let's keep hoping the "A Team" can keep upping the specs without upping the price by too much. I believe this partly contributed to the demise of our original Amigas. What do you call something that will never die? Immortal.
Perhaps that is what the Amiga really is; an Immortal Amiga.
Many have tried to kill her off but none have yet succeeded.
I hope they never do and as long as this great team keep performing the miracles they do I think we are safe. Go Team Apollo (Amiga)
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Thierry Atheist
Posts 644
01 Jul 2016 23:04
| I completely agree Alan. motorola just gave up on making faster CPUs = end of line; AMIGA. (So did Commodore.) P.S. This Amiga can emulate the NeXT Cube too! Don't know if that was ever attempted, though. So, this ONE Amiga Apollo Core Vampire ][ is worth OVER US$25,000 in various computing hardware from days gone by!!!! BIGGEST BARGAIN EVER!
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Alan Haynes
Posts 140
02 Jul 2016 03:54
| Martin Soerensen wrote:
| | I don't think the price jump has much to do with the acquisition. It is very common that when a product reaches end-of-life that the price will take a big jump. They stop the production but as they want to keep some stock to handle warranty etc., they will up the price so much to stop people from buying too many as they cannot make new ones any longer. But they will normally have a replacement part ready for people to buy instead.
The 1541-Ultimate II cartridge had a similar problem with the price of the FPGA skyrocketing, so he had to make a new design with a new FPGA chip. This is probably what will be required for the Vampire as well.
You can still also buy new 060 CPUs from Freescale, but they are very expensive..
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As Martin said above I agree so it makes me wonder what the replacement for the Aria 10 will be. Interesting indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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