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What Happned to the LINUX Thread ?page  1 2 3 

Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4543
09 Oct 2017 18:17


ITS DELETED!

This to give you an "indication" for how important we think this topic is for us.

Expect any future request for Linux, to get deleted without notice. ;)


Mallagan Bellator

Posts 380
09 Oct 2017 18:39


Lol xD

Ouch...


Aksel Andersen

Posts 112
09 Oct 2017 18:59


How adult....

Stick that troll avatar at me as well.



Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4543
09 Oct 2017 19:23


Aksel Andersen wrote:

  How adult....
 

 
  This is very simple.
  This forum is for information and support.
 
 
  You can ask here something, then we try to answer your question.
  If we tell you LINUX is not on our roadmap then you have your answer.
  Writing 50 other posts about this topic and telling us how much you like Linux is just wasting ours and everyones time.
 
  If you have to much time, then do something useful.
  For example write some programs.
 
 


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
09 Oct 2017 19:55


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:
 
  You can ask here something, then we try to answer your question.
  If we tell you LINUX is not on our roadmap then you have your answer.

Too bad (because of MMU naginng) since thread did contain info on various m68k Linuxes and ucLinux that can work.

The point of Linux was with apps - and using Vamp as generic m68k arhitecture. To rephrase the idea - how we gonna solve the "Office problem" Amiga has. Amiga writter is a good starter, but quite outdated solution.

Final Writter 2015 - any news of its progress and will there be OS 3.x binary?



Mallagan Bellator

Posts 380
09 Oct 2017 21:24


Many apps on Linux are open source and may be ported. This should be the priority instead of putting a less effective OS onto the machine imho.

Doom was one of those examples


Nicolas Sipieter
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Posts 115/ 1
09 Oct 2017 22:23


don't let the door hit you on your way out :)


Samuel Devulder

Posts 246
09 Oct 2017 22:29


Hmmmm... too bad indeed, some info are now lost forever :-(


Aksel Andersen

Posts 112
09 Oct 2017 22:48


nicolas sipieter wrote:

don't let the door hit you on your way out :)

nice little community you got going here.. :)

im not the one being dishonest deleting posts..


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
09 Oct 2017 22:56


Mallagan Bellator wrote:

Many apps on Linux are open source and may be ported. This should be the priority instead of putting a less effective OS onto the machine imho.
  Doom was one of those examples

Porting any Open Office / Libre versions, just as example, is something not yet done in Amiga land. Same efectivelly goes for Netscape/Firefox. Its not about gaming, its about bringing productivity apps to the table.

Instead of massive ports (incl. lot of Linux dependencies) why not just making one decent kernel release that would use all the new goods and one optimised video driver?


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4543
09 Oct 2017 22:56


Aksel Andersen wrote:

nicolas sipieter wrote:

  don't let the door hit you on your way out :)
 

 
  nice little community you got going here.. :)
 
  im not the one being dishonest deleting posts..

APOLLO-CORE has a clear mission and this website and forum has a clear topic.
Try to understand it!

Continuous "Off topic" stuff will be deleted here to keep the focus of the website.


Account Sold.
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Posts 219/ 2
09 Oct 2017 22:58


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

  If we tell you LINUX is not on our roadmap then you have your answer.

Maybe you should broaden that to "Any operating system depending on MMU is not on our roadmap, because the MMU of the Apollo Core is busy being the glue that keeps Vampire cards working, and hence can never be fully exposed to any operating system!"


Aksel Andersen

Posts 112
09 Oct 2017 22:59


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

Aksel Andersen wrote:

 
nicolas sipieter wrote:

  don't let the door hit you on your way out :)
 

 
  nice little community you got going here.. :)
 
  im not the one being dishonest deleting posts..
 

 
  APOLLO-CORE has a clear mission and this website and forum has a clear topic.
  Try to understand it!
 
  Continuous "Off topic" stuff will be deleted here to keep the focus of the website.

Well.. YOU started this thread.. let it speak for itself..



Sean Sk

Posts 328
09 Oct 2017 23:09


Aksel Andersen wrote:

How adult....

I think you guys have had your opportunity to have your say on Linux, and you've had your questions and comments sufficiently answered. To keep banging on about the subject like infants is not "adult" in itself.

I know children who accept an answer the first time around better than you guys. You were given your opportunity to express your opinion, now give it a break.



Aksel Andersen

Posts 112
09 Oct 2017 23:13


sean sk wrote:

Aksel Andersen wrote:

  How adult....
 

 
  I think you guys have had your opportunity to have your say on Linux, and you've had your questions and comments sufficiently answered. To keep banging on about the subject like infants is not "adult" in itself.
 
  I know children who accept an answer the first time around better than you guys. You were given your opportunity to express your opinion, now give it a break.
 

If my posts wasnt deleted you would see that i was not talking about Linux at all..



Aksel Andersen

Posts 112
09 Oct 2017 23:20


Gunnar: maybe you shouldnt focus too much on this forum.. :)


M Rickan

Posts 173
10 Oct 2017 02:36


Just so I understand correctly:

Linux is not currently part of the mandate for the Apollo team but that shouldn't dissuade another group from picking up the mantle with support from the Apollo team... rrright?

Sorta like... the FPU effort?


Nixus Minimax

Posts 415
10 Oct 2017 06:33


Kolbjørn Barmen wrote:

  Maybe you should broaden that to "Any operating system depending on MMU is not on our roadmap, because the MMU of the Apollo Core is busy being the glue that keeps Vampire cards working, and hence can never be fully exposed to any operating system!"

I have been under the wrong impression that you do know a bit about the internals of CPUs and operating systems. Obviously you don't.

Any operating system could set up the MMU to still provide the "glue" as you call it and use it for its own purposes if the OS was adapted to deal with the new MMU. But hey, there must be some dirty hidden secret and some flaw that only you are clever enough to see and not the people who merely are clever enough to develop a CPU...



Martin Soerensen

Posts 231
10 Oct 2017 07:12


So would something similar to Cygwin still require an MMU? Does it have a full Linux kernal or is it more like an API wrapper? Something like that would enable one to recompile common linux tools to run under AmigaDOS which could be very useful. I'm not thinking GUI stuff here, but mainly command-line utilities.

Perhaps this is more or less what ixemul.library provides already?


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4543
10 Oct 2017 07:35


Martin Soerensen wrote:

  Something like that would enable one to recompile common linux tools to run under AmigaDOS which could be very useful.
 

 
You mean GNU tools?
Like sed, grep, GCC, or stuff like APACHE, MYSQL ?
 
All of this works fine on AMIGA OS

You can compile this yourself, or search for
AMIGA GEEK GAGDETS,
ADE (AMIGA DEVELOPER ENVIRONMENT)

Fred Fish once initiated a lot of this

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