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Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 6207
15 Sep 2017 18:39


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

True, and exaclty why SDL 2.x+ and OpenGL should be prioritized, if we ever get some developers behind.

With all respect, I disagree with your opinion.

There are excellent PC games like
Command and Conquer, Baldurs Gate, Diablo, Star Craft, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 ...

Those games match perfectly the powers that we have.

On the other hand there are games using OpenGL which were coded under the basis of having 4 GHz machine with 4 GB memory and a 512 MB GFX card.

I believe having OpenGL will give many games running bad and only few good ones.




Stefano Briccolani

Posts 586
15 Sep 2017 19:16


Totally agree with Gunnar.
Playing Baldur's gate games on Vampire would be awesome!


Marlon Beijer

Posts 182
15 Sep 2017 19:54


wawa t wrote:

@Marlon Beijer
  maybe you can share your work. milkytracker is included in aros contribs afair, although i dont remember if it currently compiles for amiga-m68k. even though it might need some optimizations for that target, even at cost of few ifdefs around the source.

EXTERNAL LINK  I have cherrypicked the main trunk to retain SDL1.2 while benefiting from latest bugfixes from main-repo. I intend to make a proper fix and do a pull request to the main repo when I'm done. :)

I was meaning to get in contact with you when I noticed you were doing some work with milkytracker on "a week in aros development", but forgot to do so.

The source you're working with is version 0.90.86, the one I'm currently working on is version 1.0.0+!


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
15 Sep 2017 20:08


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:
  With all respect, I disagree with your opinion.
 
  There are excellent PC games like
  Command and Conquer, Baldurs Gate, Diablo, Star Craft, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 ...
 
  I believe having OpenGL will give many games running bad and only few good ones

 
  Thank you for respect, opinions are to be disagreed and discussed :-)
 
  I love all the games mentioned, and would love to have them on Vamp. Due to dependencies, SDL and OpenGL are long run solutions. Doesnt have to be something big, I see MESA and Warp3D as smaller way towards it already done. Surely, you can think of other priorities, this is from porting perspective.

On pure 2D front OVERKILL! deserves spiritual successor and storyline! EXTERNAL LINK 


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
16 Sep 2017 01:14


Stefano Briccolani wrote:

    Totally agree with Gunnar.
    Playing Baldur's gate games on Vampire would be awesome!
   

   
    I opt for Target Renegade 128k + new enemies, new moves ...
    EXTERNAL LINK   
    Beat Em Up Renegade style!
    PC new edit as goal, Arcade style
    EXTERNAL LINK   
    Some "back influence" like cameo appearance of enemies
    from ... Street Fighter, Cadilacs and Dinosaurous, Final Fight
    and Double Dragons. Hell even from Rise of Robotos, Capital Punishment and Amiga exclusive beat em ups. Some humor and storyline, too ...
   
    Also from Arcade Vigilante saving Madonna >:-) Even arcade Robocop. Hey man, SKINHEADS HAVE TAKEN MADDONA!
    EXTERNAL LINK   
   
    There was Amiga remake?
    EXTERNAL LINK 
 
  2nd best beat em up is ... Prisoners of War, Rambo Style, beat the VC! It would be interesting to be a VC fighter escaping US camp too ... Different eras and combats could be explored.
  Arcade
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  OpenBor should be enough as starter, before real games :-)
   


Stefano Briccolani

Posts 586
16 Sep 2017 09:04


This engine (gemRB) would be a perfect Vampire port and would give the opportunity to play baldur's gate 1 and 2 (with all expansions) icewind dale and, planescape torment games.
    EXTERNAL LINK      There is a port for os4 so maybe a 68k port can be feasible
  This is the amiga os4 port:
  EXTERNAL LINK   


Artur Jarosik
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 94
16 Sep 2017 12:41


Created patreon profile as suggested:

EXTERNAL LINK 
Thank you for your support!


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
16 Sep 2017 12:55


Artur Jarosik wrote:

          Created patreon profile as suggested:
          EXTERNAL LINK            Thank you for your support!
         

         
          Great! What tasks can you take, and we can start the support?
          Once idea worked and something presentable, you can take projects
          to Kickstarter.
   
              Cars n Crashes
       
          Also Chase HQ with best parts of Chase HQ 2 deserves continuation
          and over-arcade quality
          EXTERNAL LINK          EXTERNAL LINK         
          Futuristic RPG/pseudo 3D
          Xybotz
          EXTERNAL LINK         
          DGeneration
          EXTERNAL LINK        Now improved EXTERNAL LINK         
          Strategy
       
          Laser Squad with expansions
        on A500, member. Can be enhanced, but keep enemies and expand missions and weapons. Maybe some Xcom and Terror from Deep cameos too EXTERNAL LINK         
  Best Civ is Alpha Centaury, no doubt with expansions
EXTERNAL LINK 
          Colonization EXTERNAL LINK deserves more in-depth, like playing with Indians, more independent nations from other colonizing nations and just US with rebellion, civic wars, wars amongst colonizers etc.
 
  It could include colonization of Africa, Asia etc. with different oponents, goals and smaller quests.
       
        Syndicate Wars
        EXTERNAL LINK   
        Dune has gone way far then cuter Dune 2000 with Emperor> Battle for Dune  EXTERNAL LINK   
    ACTION
             
          Alien Breed TA
          EXTERNAL LINK         
          IK+
          EXTERNAL LINK         
          Lost Vikings 2
          EXTERNAL LINK   
          F1 GP
          EXTERNAL LINK               
        SWOS or any Amiga football
        EXTERNAL LINK *big up Croateam
       
        Turrican 2+3 + Hurricane
        EXTERNAL LINK           
    Crazy XXX RPG   
     
          There is a kinky Cobra Style continuation, very slow due to "FLOSS utils use", but basically Knight of Xentar / Zelda adventure. Something Vampiristic would be nice touch.
         
          Quests
          EXTERNAL LINK           
          Popular partheon, even game is half-playable at v2.1
          EXTERNAL LINK           
    Trailer EXTERNAL LINK   


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
16 Sep 2017 20:17


Artur Jarosik wrote:

  Created patreon profile as suggested:
 
  EXTERNAL LINK   
  Thank you for your support!
 

 
  Deserves support!
  Been porting since 2005,2008?
  -------------------------------
  Current ports and apps
  ------------------------------
 
Graphx2, paint app Archive EXTERNAL LINK 
  Netsurf RTG, browser EXTERNAL LINK
  EXTERNAL LINK 
-------------------------------
  OSS ports, selected
  -------------------------------

  OpenTyrian EXTERNAL LINK 
  Zelda ROTH Enhanced EXTERNAL LINK 
  Battle of Wesnoth EXTERNAL LINK 
  Hhexen EXTERNAL LINK 
  Cube 2 (needs W3d)
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  Stargus (yes, Starcraft) EXTERNAL LINK 
  OpenRedAlert EXTERNAL LINK 
  OpenJazz EXTERNAL LINK 
  MoonLander EXTERNAL LINK 
  Xpired EXTERNAL LINK 
  TicTacToe EXTERNAL LINK 
  Entombed EXTERNAL LINK 

  -------------------------------
  WIP
  -------------------------------

  Cave Story, platformer
  Web EXTERNAL LINK  Archive EXTERNAL LINK 
  MiniSlug, shooter
  Web EXTERNAL LINK  Archive EXTERNAL LINK 
  FreeHeroes 2
  EXTERNAL LINK


Fernando Pereira

Posts 68
17 Sep 2017 13:20


Artur Jarosik wrote:

  Created patreon profile as suggested:
   
    EXTERNAL LINK   
    Thank you for your support!
 

 
  Supported :D Now this is what I'm talking about!
 
  I would actually give more than 1€ if you make the option for it.
 
  **************************************
  I encourage more people to support him!


Samuel Crow

Posts 424
19 Sep 2017 10:30


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

  True, and exaclty why SDL 2.x+ and OpenGL should be prioritized, if we ever get some developers behind.
 

 
  With all respect, I disagree with your opinion.
 
  There are excellent PC games like
  Command and Conquer, Baldurs Gate, Diablo, Star Craft, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 ...
 
  Those games match perfectly the powers that we have.
 
 
 
  On the other hand there are games using OpenGL which were coded under the basis of having 4 GHz machine with 4 GB memory and a 512 MB GFX card.
 
  I believe having OpenGL will give many games running bad and only few good ones.

For OpenGL, old versions only get you so far.  Prior to Warp Nova on OS4 there was no shader support for it and not much new stuff worked.  Now with it they use compatibility kludges to run stuff on an OpenGL ES 2.0 wrapper.

As far as SDL is concerned, 1.2.x is software only and alpha blend modes and image rotations got no hardware acceleration on Windows machines.

Version 2.x is better because it requires hardware acceleration regardless of the underlying driver support.  Windows machines still don't use OpenGL anymore because the new SDL wraps Direct3D's proprietary drivers.  If we have a texture mapper, we can use SDL 2 without OpenGL while old SDL games written on Windows require OpenGL for 2d hardware acceleration.


Mr Niding

Posts 459
19 Sep 2017 11:41


Hum, Arthur had 3 patreons and only $4 dollars per month.
 
  I realise its difficult days in Europa, but thats a bit on the low side imho.
 
  Anyhow; pledged.

@Fernando Pereira You can edit the amount of support you give. It defaults at 1, but click it to edit.


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
21 Sep 2017 19:01


Mr Niding wrote:

  I realise its difficult days in Europa, but thats a bit on the low side imho.

No more solidarity, with a lot of campaining we never reached 300$ for Kalamitee.

Another STRONG bnut great 3D amiga/atari Classic is TREX WARRIOR
EXTERNAL LINK 
Fast paceed 3D 22nd century gladiator!
EXTERNAL LINK 
A bit of music, multiplayer and more enemies and show em what is GAMEPLAY and SURVIVAL!

- Needs music
-


Mr Niding

Posts 459
21 Sep 2017 19:11


Well, he needs to advertise his patreon.

Noone can support what they dont know of.


Vojin Vidanovic
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Posts 1916/ 1
05 Jun 2018 12:27


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

  There are excellent PC games like
  Command and Conquer, Baldurs Gate, Diablo, Star Craft, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 ...
 
  Those games match perfectly the powers that we have.
 

Indeed. Has anyone tested Arti`S port of STargus? It requires 060 100Mhz :-)

Artis Strategy Ports *Wesnoth, Stargus, Red Alert
EXTERNAL LINK


Marlon Beijer

Posts 182
05 Jun 2018 16:14


Maybe I should put up a Patreon for my Milkytracker porting efforts. I am working on porting a Megaman clone over to Amiga68k as well. Currently struggling with endian issues. A little extra beer money in my pocket would always help. ;)


Roy Gillotti

Posts 517
05 Jun 2018 17:24


Marlon Beijer wrote:

Maybe I should put up a Patreon for my Milkytracker porting efforts. I am working on porting a Megaman clone over to Amiga68k as well. Currently struggling with endian issues. A little extra beer money in my pocket would always help. ;)

I'd support it.


MartinTomas Steffen

Posts 61
06 Jun 2018 04:51


Just do it, i will pay.

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