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Mallagan Bellator

Posts 381
10 Dec 2017 01:15


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

Mallagan Bellator wrote:

  There is the IDE to SATA adapter, though.
 

  Yes they work, and cost like $5.
  Yes you can attach Terabytes of HDD to the VAMP this way.

And 1TB would be like 10 or 12 partitions if you chose to use the entire drive!! Lol!! xD

Reminds me of when I had my first 40GB hard drive and didnt know how to use SFS or PFS3 xD I had like 8 partitions


Mallagan Bellator

Posts 381
10 Dec 2017 01:20


Though if its a 1TB drive, youd end up with like 800 actual gigabytes... since manufactorers cheat with the capacity and completely ignores the binary calculations.

So I guess on such a drive youd end up with 8 or 9 partitions


Tim Trepanier

Posts 106
10 Dec 2017 03:32


Mallagan Bellator wrote:
Though if its a 1TB drive, youd end up with like 800 actual gigabytes... since manufactorers cheat with the capacity and completely ignores the binary calculations.

This happens if you format it for Windows. It is a 1TB drive, all the lost space is used by Windows to overcome legacy limitations and get everything to work. I read a long technical paper about this once and don't remember all the details.

With the coming AmigaOS 3.1 update and support for >4GB drives this won't be a problem.


Markus (mfro)

Posts 91
10 Dec 2017 07:18


Tim Trepanier wrote:

     
Mallagan Bellator wrote:
Though if its a 1TB drive, youd end up with like 800 actual gigabytes... since manufactorers cheat with the capacity and completely ignores the binary calculations.

     
      This happens if you format it for Windows. It is a 1TB drive, all the lost space is used by Windows to overcome legacy limitations and get everything to work. I read a long technical paper about this once and don't remember all the details.
     
      With the coming AmigaOS 3.1 update and support for >4GB drives this won't be a problem.
     

     
      There is in fact some lost space with MS formatting, the root cause with Microsoft is that they (even after >20 years of standardisation) still just don't get their maths right, however.
     
      According to the SI standard
     
      1TB = 1000 GB = 1000 x 1000 MB = 1000 x 1000 x 1000 KB = 1000 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000 Byte
      (Terabyte, Gigabyte, Megabyte, Kilobyte)
   
    and
   
      1TiB = 1024 GiB = 1024 x 1024 MiB = 1024 x 1024 x 1024 KiB = 1024 x 1024 x 1024 x 1024 Byte
      (Tebibyte, Gibibyte, Mebibyte, Kibibyte)
     
      Microsoft calculates with (latter) binary multiples but displays the result with (former) decimal units (which is just plain wrong), thus the discrepancy (on a Terabyte medium, about 10%).
     


C. Nicolakakis

Posts 5
10 Dec 2017 14:13


Hi, just joined to say this about large hard disks:

You can already use big hard disks with Amigas with the right filesystem and device driver.

I have an A4000/030 with 1 TB (931GB) IDE hard disk and the largest partition is about 700 GB IIRC.

You just have to use a filesystem that supports large partitons like PFS or SFS, AND a device driver that supports 48-bit LBA like Don Adan's scsi device (http://wt.exotica.org.uk/test.html)

Most of the trouble is using HDToolbox to create and edit the partitions.
 


Martin Soerensen

Posts 232
11 Dec 2017 07:46


PFS3 doesn't work with partitions larger than 101GB due to some bug. Larger partitions (up to 1/2TiB) is supported with FFS v.45 (from WB3.5/3.9), SFS or FAT95.


Tim D

Posts 9
11 Dec 2017 13:33


It's clear we will not see anything released by the years' end. No hard feelings there. But it would be nice to give us a bit of a status update regarding A500, A1200 & Standalone V4 as a little holiday gift :)


Stefano Briccolani

Posts 493
11 Dec 2017 19:06


There is hope for release of core gold 2.7 this year, I think. It will be the culmination of a stellar year for apollo team.


Martin Soerensen

Posts 232
07 Feb 2018 08:29


V4 spotted in the wild:
EXTERNAL LINK  (scroll down to around 2/3)

Nice to see that the new A500 cases will also be designed with the V4 in mind. :)


Michael Borrmann

Posts 133
08 Feb 2018 06:37


Martin Soerensen wrote:

V4 spotted in the wild:
  EXTERNAL LINK  (scroll down to around 2/3)
 
  Nice to see that the new A500 cases will also be designed with the V4 in mind. :)

Nice to see.. :)

Hopefully the V4 will be available to buy anytime soon... :)



Ian Parsons

Posts 217
08 Feb 2018 09:20


I wonder what the keyboard solution(s) is(/are) for and A500 case mounted Vampire 4 standalone.

The choice of placement of the ports within the case will also be interesting.


Matthew Burroughs

Posts 59
09 Feb 2018 18:48


Ian Parsons wrote:

I wonder what the keyboard solution(s) is(/are) for and A500 case mounted Vampire 4 standalone.
 
  The choice of placement of the ports within the case will also be interesting.

Would prefer a new 1200 case for the Standalone but a 500 case would be almost as good.

Way more space in a 500 case though.......



Roman S.

Posts 149
10 Feb 2018 12:08


Well, I'll think about case if the V4 Standalone is released and I'm able to buy one. For now - I prefer to focus on HW I already have :)


Michael Borrmann

Posts 133
28 Feb 2018 19:43


Any news on when the v4 will get released?
At least some vague time window?

Thanks... ;)


Roy Gillotti

Posts 431
28 Feb 2018 20:19


Michael Borrmann wrote:

Any news on when the v4 will get released?
  At least some vague time window?
 
  Thanks... ;)

Likely before the end of this decade.


Mallagan Bellator

Posts 381
28 Feb 2018 23:53


Yeah, I would say that was quite vague


Martin Randall

Posts 21
08 Mar 2018 23:55


So the V4 was announced  "03 Aug 2017 15:56"
   
    It's now 7 months later.
   
    Can we get an update on any of the V4's ???
   
    I'm holding off on the V2 as I want the extra capabilities of the larger FPGA chip size.
   
    Plus, I think the standalone V4 will be more suitable as my Amiga's are old and a bit flaky needing capacitor and other fixes.  All my Amiga's are over 25 years old.
 
  I would rather go for new hardware, at least initially.


Samuel Crow

Posts 389
09 Mar 2018 04:16


The impression I have is that hardware prototypes are done, it just needs gold 3 as a prerequisite technology.


Roy Gillotti

Posts 431
09 Mar 2018 12:50


martin randall wrote:

  All my Amiga's are over 25 years old. 
Pretty sure that is the case for almost all classic Amigas out there, unless you have an Escom or Quikpak one, then it will soon be 25 years old.



Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1698
11 Mar 2018 09:45


martin randall wrote:

      So the V4 was announced  "03 Aug 2017 15:56"
         
          It's now 7 months later.
         
          Can we get an update on any of the V4's ???
     

     
      As much as I would love more detailed news, I suppose it will come since 2.7 core release is done.
     
      Last ones I have seen was V4 x11 Protype booting and sysinfo, showing  ~92 MIPS and ~37MFLOPS
     
      EXTERNAL LINK       
      Also I do recall in one of monthly releases that a possibility of v2.7 core release for V4 was mentioned, but we havent seen it publicly.
     
      In products list, Vampire 500 V4 is only listed, but not yet availiable
      CLICK HERE       
      That is all we "know" now.
 
 
  My lucky guess is that Vampire 500 V4 with some modified v2.7 core and stronger FPU could roll in quite soon, 1200 V4 maybe too, but standalone needs a modified GOLD3 core, so might be a longer route from here. As well as unified DIGITAL-VIDEO outpout, Pamela sound chip etc. for everyone. So patience is advised and abusing what has recently been released until these days.
 
  Also all V4 Vamps need a USB support, Ethernet driver, Dual Kickstart and few new tricks down the sleeve done right. So its quite a leap from current v2 era. Why it was announced so early then? I suppose hardware seemed ready and software (core/drivers etc.) work was a bit underestimated, as well as time to do 2.7 core for V2 generation giving them reduced FPU and AMMX2 as well as X12 core.
     
      Trouble is core development needs a lot of fixing, as we can see by just looking numbers of public releases. V4 branch might need a lot more tweaking and testing before it can go public.
     
     
      v2 cores - public releases - version - release dates
     
      GOLD2.7  4906  2018-03-02 
      GOLD2.5  3686  2017-07-30 
      GOLD2    3686  2017-01-23 
      GOLD    3469  2016-09-05 
      SILVER9  3409  2016-08-03   
      SILVER8  3394  2016-07-29 
      SILVER7  3351  2016-07-10   
      SILVER6  3229  2016-05-16   
      SILVER5  3227  2016-05-06 
      SILVER3a 3181  2016-04-04 
      SILVER3  3176  2016-04-03   
      SILVER2  3053  2016-02-28   
      SILVER1  2952  2015-12-25

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