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Mallagan Bellator

Posts 381
20 Sep 2017 23:13



  Dude everything you asked for already exist. Combine V4 and classical Amiga and you have disk drive and all legacy port.
 
  But for standalone v4 it is a complete different beast. It is targeted for the future and not past.

I mean for those who have no Amiga at all.
Besides, specific Pamela features will most likely not be possible to output from the RCAs connected with the onboard Paula. You'd have to go the route of pickin up the sound from DIGITAL-VIDEO, then snag the sound onto RCA.
For the record, RCA are still great contacts


Thierry Atheist

Posts 618
21 Sep 2017 20:37


Mallagan Bellator wrote:
I mean for those who have no Amiga at all.
Besides, specific Pamela features will most likely not be possible to output from the RCAs connected with the onboard Paula. You'd have to go the route of pickin up the sound from DIGITAL-VIDEO, then snag the sound onto RCA.
For the record, RCA are still great contacts

I agree with the old ports stuff. Frankly, I don't trust USB input for tiny amounts of data that keyboards, mice, trackballs, joysticks, etc. generate.

RCA is great. People DO still have great old stereos. (I miss CRTs too. Remember dragging a screen and getting multiple resolutions.... HOW COOL WAS THAT???)

What is the size of the SW that runs the USB and Ethernet i/o? Does it have to run if you're not using those parts of the Vampire?

Unless we get a MAJOR investment from someone/somewhere all of that and expansion ports and floppy disk drives are not going to happen. :-((((


Mallagan Bellator

Posts 381
21 Sep 2017 21:10


But RCA, though...


Nadyr Nick

Posts 32
21 Sep 2017 22:03


news about V4 for A4000 ????????


Daniel Sevo

Posts 299
26 Sep 2017 21:28


Out of *curiosity*
Whats the *price difference* between Cyclone V model "5CEA5" and "5CEA7"?
(A7 gives double amount of LEs)
Anyone knows?




Gregthe Canuck

Posts 274
26 Sep 2017 21:34


@Daniel Sevo

Over double the price. Just look on mouser.com, search on Cyclone V.


Crow Mohikan

Posts 78
02 Oct 2017 07:43


Any news about v3000/4000?



Ian Parsons

Posts 217
02 Oct 2017 12:12


I wouldn't expect any news about V3000/4000 until after the V1200 is finished.


Javier R. Santurde

Posts 16
02 Oct 2017 12:49


But... Any news about when v4 is released.?


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
02 Oct 2017 13:42


Javier R. Santurde wrote:

  But... Any news about when v4 is released.?
 

 
  Announcement is end of 2017 for A500/A600 and maybe A1200
  and first quater of 2018 for Standalone.
 
  Maybe announcement was a bit rushed to raise focus.
  Hardware exists, but there is no point in selling it before
  v3 core is fully implemeneted (and 2.7 is not yet public)
  and for v4 ApolloFPU too ... Also they need improved USB and Ethernet drivers too ... So its better that team does job good then that we have another "NG prerealise" debacle.

P.S.
In other news, I see people praise x5000/Cyrus 020 is availiable at all, but it still sold under "First encouters" banner.


Chris Sanz

Posts 25
10 Oct 2017 01:46


V4 has 2 IDE connectors, will it take 2 or 4 drives?

Chris


Sascha Wintz

Posts 19
19 Oct 2017 20:34


I am so excited about the Vampire 500 V4. You guys did an incredible job pulling this off! Thank you so much! Can't wait to throw my money at this beast :-)


Roman S.

Posts 149
02 Dec 2017 19:38


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

Announcement is end of 2017 for A500/A600 and maybe A1200 and first quater of 2018 for Standalone.

Sorry, I don't have much time lately for the Amiga-related fun and I think I'm completely lost now. Wasn't the V4 for A1200 supposed to be released after the V4 standalone? And the A1200 V2 just after A500 V2?

I plan to buy the V4 Standalone if it is released, and possibly also the V4 for my A1200 (definitely with the Parasite!).


Michal Warzecha

Posts 209
02 Dec 2017 21:20


V4 is next generation Vampire, and it's most universal. V2 was designed first for A600, because HW developer Igor own this exactly  Amiga model. Then V500 for A500 was build.
And here V2 is done. Next generation of Vampire (V4) is designed to be All In One device. It should fit to all Amigas (A600 need addictional board to fit Vampire on to unique A600 CPU case)and also it should work as standalone device. Hope I explain everything to You even with my poor english :)


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
02 Dec 2017 22:07


Michal Warzecha wrote:

  And here V2 is done. Next generation of Vampire (V4) is designed to be All In One device. It should fit to all Amigas (A600 need addictional board to fit Vampire on to unique A600 CPU case)and also it should work as standalone device. Hope I explain everything to You even with my poor english :)
 

 
  In general yes, but its a new "design" not in terms of CPU, but of USB, LAN, DB9 on standalone, faster caches, more RAM and full blown FPU, and most important complete SAGA. All this needs a bit more testing and finetuning.
 
  Idea that 500 model and standalone will go first strives from few evidences of their existance. Standalone existed much more, since v2 days, but needs that complete SAGA to be product on market.
 
  Once 2.7 and 3 cores are done, tested and fixed for v4 platform, models should be a matter of connector and smaller finetuning on peculiar Amiga models. Add time for mass production and delivery to the dealers.

Dont expect a fast revolution, rather a evolution.


Mallagan Bellator

Posts 381
06 Dec 2017 01:01


Iím curious as to why the vampire doesnít have SATA instead of IDE.
Is there a real reason for this?
Finding IDE hard drives and DVD roms today is probably alot harder than to just buy SATA.
Sure, it might be hard to reach the speeds of SATA on the Amiga, but still


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
06 Dec 2017 01:22


Mallagan Bellator wrote:

Iím curious as to why the vampire doesnít have SATA instead of IDE.
  Is there a real reason for this?
  Finding IDE hard drives and DVD roms today is probably alot harder than to just buy SATA.
  Sure, it might be hard to reach the speeds of SATA on the Amiga, but still

No official reason was given. I suppose its as simple as - AmigaOS supports IDE out of box, while no OS 3.x drivers exist for SATA controllers.

Gladly, it seems some IDE SSDs do exist and are recent date of production.


Mo Retro

Posts 239
06 Dec 2017 01:35


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

 
Mallagan Bellator wrote:

  Iím curious as to why the vampire doesnít have SATA instead of IDE.
    Is there a real reason for this?
    Finding IDE hard drives and DVD roms today is probably alot harder than to just buy SATA.
    Sure, it might be hard to reach the speeds of SATA on the Amiga, but still
 

  No official reason was given. I suppose its as simple as - AmigaOS supports IDE out of box, while no OS 3.x drivers exist for SATA controllers.
 
  Gladly, it seems some IDE SSDs do exist and are recent date of production.
 

 
  There is always the IDE2SATA solution:
EXTERNAL LINK 
https://www.startech.com/m/HDD/Adapters/Bi-Directional-SATA-IDE-Adapter-Converter~PATA2SATA3

 
 
 


Mallagan Bellator

Posts 381
06 Dec 2017 02:06



 
  There is always the IDE2SATA solution:
  EXTERNAL LINK   
  https://www.startech.com/m/HDD/Adapters/Bi-Directional-SATA-IDE-Adapter-Converter~PATA2SATA
 

Yup, I know, but I wonder if it would be so hard to convert PATA to SATA directly on the vampire, and just add 2 or 4 ports



Michal Warzecha

Posts 209
06 Dec 2017 08:41


Exactly. IDE is "out of box". SATA need drivers, and SATA drives are too big for Amigas, it's no need to connect 250GB or bigger HD to Amiga. Solution for us (for next few years)is SD card reader. SD cards you can buy on every street corner in super-low price. When Amiga software library will grown in insine speed, then team probably create Vampire V6 or V8 with SATA controller. For now SD card is best solution. And CF cards, of course.

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