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Thierry Atheist

Posts 644
23 Mar 2017 05:17


Olaf Schoenweiss wrote:
if I understand right keyboard is attached by USB.

The data bandwidth of USB is just ridiculous for a keyboard and a mouse input. The software is bulky too. It's too bad we don't have six old fashioned DB-9 or PS/2 sockets on there.

A keyboard, a mouse, +4 joysticks or paddles or whatever.


Thierry Atheist

Posts 644
23 Mar 2017 05:20


Kolbjørn Barmen wrote:
This is how I use ethernet on Amiga these days :)
https://kolla.egnyte.com/dl/mnx4PxXpYL

What the what???

We'll have none of that here now... ;-)

(The Vampire standalone will solve MANY problems of that type.)


Michal Warzecha

Posts 209
23 Mar 2017 20:14


Ole Eitels wrote:

I'm probably not the first one here to say that "i would love to see some actual photos and specs of that thing"
  ;)

It's impossible to not agree :)
  Can You share some photos? Is it like Lorraine, or more like Vampire :D
  Can You tell something more about standalone board Gunnar? What it contain exactly? Or is it still some secret?


Daniel Sevo

Posts 299
23 Mar 2017 21:36


Michal Warzecha wrote:

Ole Eitels wrote:

  I'm probably not the first one here to say that "i would love to see some actual photos and specs of that thing"
  ;)
 

 
  It's impossible to not agree :)
  Can You share some photos? Is it like Lorraine, or more like Vampire :D
  Can You tell something more about standalone board Gunnar? What it contain exactly? Or is it still some secret?

I can see how they'd want to keep the feature list secret for now.. (e.g. not having to listen to 1000 comments, "but why didn't you add this or that" etc..) but I don't see the harm of revealing the size of the board, i.e. form factor, as long as it isn't just an early prototype they want to refine and redesign heavily..



Wawa T

Posts 695
23 Mar 2017 22:19


What it contain exactly?

might just be a reasonalbly piced off the shelf fpga development board. probably not a bad idea.


Michael R

Posts 281
24 Mar 2017 01:47


It may be quite small as in Mini-ITX. There aren't many components needed other than maybe USB, DIGITAL-VIDEO, power, Sound, Ethernet, and maybe legacy Amiga mouse and joystick. Everything else was already on the Vampire accelerator and it was about 3" x 4" . So maybe 8" x 8" . But that's just a guess.


M Rickan

Posts 177
24 Mar 2017 20:27


wawa t wrote:

  might just be a reasonalbly piced off the shelf fpga development board. probably not a bad idea.

It's possible that's what they were hinting at when they posted a link to a pic a while ago.


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 6207
24 Mar 2017 20:45


The size is 120 x 100 mm


Mo Retro

Posts 241
24 Mar 2017 20:51


m rickan wrote:

wawa t wrote:

  might just be a reasonalbly piced off the shelf fpga development board. probably not a bad idea.
 

 
  It's possible that's what they were hinting at when they posted a link to a pic a while ago.

You mean like this

EXTERNAL LINK 

As posted in post 10 in this thread CLICK HERE


Mo Retro

Posts 241
24 Mar 2017 20:57


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

  The size is 120 x 100 mm
 

 
  Thanks Gunnar :D
    Wow that's a neat small size.
  How do you fit all the ports you mentioned in the thread below?
  CLICK HERE   
 


Wawa T

Posts 695
24 Mar 2017 21:14


@mo retro

;)

i dont think this off the shelf hardware idea is completely alien to gunnar and team, initially the hardware for the apollo core was expected to be something like this, along with an amiga-interface, but then igor came across.


M Rickan

Posts 177
25 Mar 2017 03:08


Mo Retro wrote:

  You mean like this
 
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  As posted in post 10 in this thread CLICK HERE 

Evidently it's not the Cyclone V GX Starter Kit as the size is 150 mm x 115.8 mm.


Mo Retro

Posts 241
25 Mar 2017 08:46


m rickan wrote:

 
Mo Retro wrote:

    You mean like this
   
    EXTERNAL LINK     
    As posted in post 10 in this thread CLICK HERE   

   
    Evidently it's not the Cyclone V GX Starter Kit as the size is 150 mm x 115.8 mm.
 

 
  Thanks M Rickan,
  Yes I see it now, the Cyclone V Starter Kit is indeed bigger than the Standalone.
 
  http://www.terasic.com.tw/cgi-bin/page/archive.pl?Language=English&CategoryNo=165&No=830&PartNo=3#section
 
  My question still remains, how did they fit all the legacy and new ports in that small size?
  Did they superpose some of the connectors?
 


Michael R

Posts 281
25 Mar 2017 09:33


Mo Retro, I wondered that myself. I imagined that it would be small because the Apollo Team likes to "keep it small and simple". But 120x110 is maybe 4.3"x4.7" and that's really small. But it's possible. I don't yet have my Vampire 500 v2+ to measure precisely but I estimate the size to be roughly 100x100 (4"x4"). So maybe we gained 0.3 on one side and 0.7 on the other. Think of it as a scaled up Vampire 500 v2+. The 0.7" gained on the back side is enough to fit the new connections. These may include power, two stacked USB, maybe Ethernet, DIGITAL-VIDEO, two audio jacks, one 9 pin Amiga mouse/joystick port. Move the DIGITAL-VIDEO out to the back row to allow mounting with a backplate. So beside the sd card slot there is room for a real time clock with a CR2032 mounted vertically. Near there the Vampire 500 v2+ has an I/O expansion header for a wifi module. On the left side near the Fast IDE there is room for one or two more I/O expansion headers. There can be an optional IDE to SATA converter for future use. Without a picture of the board layout this is what might fit in that space. It's a REALLY small board either way!

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