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Michal Pietal

Posts 128
06 Aug 2020 15:16


Joe Maroni wrote:

CoffinOS is free

I saw, indeed, CoffinOS distribution and it was installed on my V4SA without any further requirements.

This obviously implies that AmigaOS 3.9 and AmigaOS 3.1 are free, too.

Would you please send me a couple of copies then?  I will PM you my mailing address.


Sam Avenger

Posts 7
06 Aug 2020 15:46


Jamie Chapman wrote:

Not cheap.  Wonder if He will do discounts  for people who own other versions

10 OFF if you own AmiKit XE for Windows, Mac or Linux. We appreciate your support!


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1719
06 Aug 2020 17:03


Michal Pietal wrote:

  No cheap?
 
  What's cheap then?  X1000??
 

 
  Certainly not x1000 :)
 
  AmiKit was always a paid thing, only older v8 was released as free.
  Those who want free have AmiKit Real and something call "AmiKit Vampirizer" and can run that.
 
  AmiKit was and is most feature complete AmigaOS package for last 15 years. Kind of "Amiga Linux package" so Jan does all the hard work, with few beta testers involved (kudos to Jakub here!)

See the list for yourself
EXTERNAL LINK 
 
  AmiKit XE is really nice polished product, worth of its money.
  I suppose some things like Updater had to be re-done for Vampire ("now Dracula the System Master" :) , so its not just the same thing as PC release.
 
  What intrigues me most is "080 & 040 Executables" :)
  I understand 040 executables of all software is included for compatibility. Erm, what 080 executables are included :))))
 
  Quick Guide is here
  EXTERNAL LINK 
 
  Kudos Jan, will get one, fully deserved price!
 
  And this is how Jan explains it:
 
  "I spent an unbelievable amount of time and effort putting everything together, an enormous amount of work that included the following:
 
      A complete system re-design, including custom programs, enhanced functionality and overall integration
      Every included program has been pre-installed, pre-configured and integrated, and most include optimizations that go far beyond the default installation settings
      Extensive, fine-tuned UI enhancements, comprehensive testing and debugging specific to the Vampire version
      International travel to procure one of the first V4 units
 
  All of this requires time, time that I must balance with the needs of my family & day job. I worked on the Vampire port itself almost daily for almost a year. The fact is, paying for AmiKit XE Vampire ensures that I can continue providing user support, and also facilitates ongoing development, the hallmarks of a dependable & superior product!
 
  All this said, I also provide FREE EDITIONS of AmiKit 8 for Windows, AmiKit 9 for Mac and even a Bootable edition if you prefer. They represent 12 years of intensive development and they are all fully functional and free forever. Enjoy!"


Jamie Chapman

Posts 66
06 Aug 2020 17:16


Sam Avenger wrote:

Jamie Chapman wrote:

  Not cheap.  Wonder if He will do discounts  for people who own other versions
 

  10 OFF if you own AmiKit XE for Windows, Mac or Linux. We appreciate your support!

Brilliant  :)


Pascal Babel

Posts 34
11 Aug 2020 22:18


At this price it's theft!


Jan Zah

Posts 2
13 Aug 2020 19:57


pascal babel wrote:

At this price it's theft!

Hollywood 8:  99 EUR
Hollywood Designer 5:  69 EUR
iBrowse:  54.99 EUR
DigiBooster 3.1:  59-69 EUR
Workbench 3.1 SD edition:  46.90 EUR
DigiBooster Pro:  35-49 EUR
Reshoot game:  29.95 - 47.95 EUR
CygnusED:  35-45 EUR
Roadshow: 25-29.90 EUR
MUI:  25 USD
Picasso96:  20 USD
AmiKit 8 or 9:  FREE

The choice is yours.


Pascal Babel

Posts 34
13 Aug 2020 22:41


When I say it's theft, it's both ways. Do you think the rights holders are getting something on AMIKIT ?? I ask to see. Just like on pimiga and other distributions in which a lot of laws are bypassed.
  So the guy makes a little distro with unpaid software, and he charges for it !!! That's what I'm saying, it's doubly theft !!!


Sean Sk

Posts 381
14 Aug 2020 00:10


pascal babel wrote:

When I say it's theft, it's both ways. Do you think the rights holders are getting something on AMIKIT ?? I ask to see. Just like on pimiga and other distributions in which a lot of laws are bypassed.
  So the guy makes a little distro with unpaid software, and he charges for it !!! That's what I'm saying, it's doubly theft !!!

     
Stop spreading baseless nonsense.
     
Many of the commercial apps included such as iBrowse and Roadshow are demo versions which are freely available to download. Others such as MUI and Another World, permission has been obtained from the license holders to include in the Amikit distribution. Apps like DOPUS 5 have a paid for license included.
 
I'm pretty sure Ján has done his homework first before doing something silly that could potentially destroy his product.
 
ALSO: Welcome to the forum Ján. It's nice to see you here mate and awesome work on Amikit.


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1719
14 Aug 2020 22:48


pascal babel wrote:

  When I say it's theft, it's both ways. Do you think the rights holders are getting something on AMIKIT ?? I ask to see. Just like on pimiga and other distributions in which a lot of laws are bypassed.
    So the guy makes a little distro with unpaid software, and he charges for it !!! That's what I'm saying, it's doubly theft !!!
 

 
  Dear Pascal,
 
  You are COMPLETELY wrong here. You are mixing "apples and oranges" (here we would say grandmas n frogs :))))
 
  a) There ARE distros build piece by piece, where even for free packages licenses for inclusion are obtained, even special versions sometimes. AmiKit is oldest in such school, AROS Vision is other one we can remember. As an example, Jan has gone through great lengths to recently expand games included in AmiKit XE and once Diablo 68k port was done, he included download of SHAREWARE Diablo. His distro needs user provided KS and WB and does not include one shred of cracked, non licensed software.
 
  Take a look at feature page, its explicitly stated permisions are granted even for MUI.
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  b) Yes, some "images of hard drives" like pimiga included Final Writter, Perfect Paint and some other Amiga software that could, should be paid, but its IP holders did not react.My word of advice is - tell it to IP holders (Haage and Partner, AEON ...) in PiAmiga case, and if they react, their software might get removed.
 
  Eh, what is theft is a strange question in capitalism :)
 
  But in this case you are VERY wrong. Especially calling it "little distro". It would take days and nights to build OS 3.9 to that level, OS 3.1 even more.
 


Pascal Babel

Posts 34
15 Aug 2020 15:38


That in total this represents around 550 so when you buy a version of amikit the rights holders of software like Hollywood are paid up to 168 , ditto for the other beneficiaries?

Jan Zah wrote:

pascal babel wrote:

  At this price it's theft!
 

 
  Hollywood 8:  99 EUR
  Hollywood Designer 5:  69 EUR
  iBrowse:  54.99 EUR
  DigiBooster 3.1:  59-69 EUR
  Workbench 3.1 SD edition:  46.90 EUR
  DigiBooster Pro:  35-49 EUR
  Reshoot game:  29.95 - 47.95 EUR
  CygnusED:  35-45 EUR
  Roadshow: 25-29.90 EUR
  MUI:  25 USD
  Picasso96:  20 USD
  AmiKit 8 or 9:  FREE
 
  The choice is yours.




Stefano Briccolani

Posts 502
15 Aug 2020 16:57


There are none of this software on AmikitX
  A part from registered MUI and demo version of Ibrowse and roadshow
  But yes MUI is still on sale for 25 euros and is included (with author's permission) in AmikitX


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1719
15 Aug 2020 18:04


pascal babel wrote:

  That in total this represents around 550 so when you buy a version of amikit the rights holders of software like Hollywood are paid up to 168 , ditto for the other beneficiaries?
 

 
  It was simple comparison Amiga software aint cheap. AmiKit for Win-Lin is not that expensive, Vampire version just costs some more.
 
  ------------------------------------------------------------------
  Now, see what is so special BESIDE a lot of free software that is tested, bundled and regularly updated (what I could not get any other way or would have to pay):
 
  (This list alone is worth of money plus convenience it works out of box)
  -----------------------------------------------------------------
 
  AmIRC 3.6.2 - full version by Oliver Wagner, Jamie van den Berge and VaporWare
  *AfA_OS 4.8 EXCLUSIVE by Bernd Roesch and Thomas Klein
  OpenTyrian EXCLUSIVE port (by Artur Jarosik) of the freeware DOS game Tyrian by Eclipse Software
  Kobo Deluxe 0.5.1 EXCLUSIVE port by Artur Jarosik
  DevilutionX 0.4.0 - EXCLUSIVE Amiga RTG port (22-Feb-2020) by Artur Jarosik, Marlon Beijer and Samuel Devulder running a shareware version of Diablo game
  Abandoned House 1.0 EXCLUSIVE adventure game by Anbjorn Myren
  *ShowAmiga96 2.3d EXCLUSIVE by Heiko M¨¹ller
  ReqChange 3.15 + EXCLUSIVE keyfile by Magnus Holmgren
  Master Control Program (MCP) 1.49c EXCLUSIVE by Dieter Groppe
  KingCON 1.3 by David Larsson + patch 1.8 by M. Calusinski EXCLUSIVE
  IconEditor 2.0 EXCLUSIVE by Paul E. Bloedel
  GlobalTrash 1.5a1 EXCLUSIVE by Oliver Blumert
  FullPalette 40.23 EXCLUSIVE by Massimo Tantignone
  +Truecolor FFT-Analyzer 0.88 EXCLUSIVE
  *AmiStart 0.70 EXCLUSIVE by Darius Brewka
 
  Completed with keyfiles
  VirusChecker II 2.5 (Brain 3.0) + free keyfile by Alex van Niel
  MUI 3.8 and MUI 5.0 (2020R1) by Stefan Stuntz (INCLUDING KEYFILE with his kind permission), Thore Böckelman and Jens Maus
  LZX 1.21 + free keyfile by Jonathan Forbes
  HippoPlayer 1.45 + free keyfile by Kari-Pekka Koljonen
  Eagleplayer 2.06 (including free keyfile) by Jan Blumenthal and Henryk Richter + few modules
  XAD 12.1a + free keyfile by Dirk Stoecker
  FryingPan 1.3.2 - full version by Tomasz Wiszkowski
  Directory Opus 5 Magellan II 5.82 (FULL VERSION. License granted by GPSoftware)
  AmIRC 3.6.2 - full version by Oliver Wagner, Jamie van den Berge and VaporWare
 
  Full versions with permission
 
  Deluxe Galaga 2.6c AGA Registered version by EMV Software (WHDLoad slave 1.3 by JOTD & CFou)
  Deluxe Pacman 1.7 AGA Registered version by EMV Software (WHDLoad slave 1.0 by CFou)
  Another World by Eric Chahi, full game included with his kind permission
  Flight of the Amazon Queen, Full Freeware Floppy Version by Interactive Binary Illusions and Renegade Software
  Beneath a Steel Sky, Full Freeware Floppy Version by Revolution Softwareand Virgin Interactive
 
  ------------------------------------------
  Plus Vampire version includes a lot of tested software
  that Windows one does not to make Vamp life even better
  -----------------------------------------
 
  **AHI 4.18 by Martin Blom + AHI Paula Driver 4.33 by M.Blom, C.Buchner, H.Richter
  **Dracula 11.3 by Jan Zahurancik
  **xml2.library 4.0 (040FPU little) by Diego Casorran
  **WBCutnPaste 1.1 by Rob Cranley
  **Ver 40.5 by Joerg Riemer
  **ToolsDaemon 2.1 by Nico Francois
  **ToolsDaemon 2.2 patch by Mikolaj Calusinski
  **ToolsDaemon TDPrefs2 Editor by Steven Pearson
  **SNTP 1.5 by Patrik Axelsson
  **SMBFS 2.22 by Olaf Barthel
  **SMBFSMounter 1.5 by Rob Cranley
  **SCSI4345p 43.45 by Chris Hodges, Toni Wilen and Christian Sauer
  **SCSIQuicker 1.0 by Renee Cousins
  **SetClockI2C 2.9 by Stefano Ruviero
  **SetDST 1.9 by Stefan Falke
  **SAGA (Super AGA) drivers 2.2.1 for Vampire by Apollo
  + fat95 3.18 by Torsten Jager
  + GiggleDisk 1.19 by Guido Mersmann
  + i2c.library 40.0 by Wilhelm Noeker
  + sagasd.device 0.9 (16-May-2016)
  + sdnet.device 2.7 (7-Feb-2020)
  + v2expeth.device 2.7 (7-Feb-2020)
  + v4net.device 2.6 (7-Feb-2020)
  + vampiregfx.card 1.30 (17-April-2020) by Apollo
  + VampireMap 1.7 (23-June-2020) by Henryk Richter
  + VampireTools by Apollo
  + VControl 1.16 (10-June-2020) written and maintained by Philippe Carpentier
  **rtg.library 40.4029 from Layers Library archive by Thomas Richter
  **Roadshow 1.13 DEMO by APC&TCP
  **RivaGUI 1.2 by Gabor Nagy
  **RequestList 1.1 by Adam Dawes
  **RequestString 1.1 by Adam Dawes
  **prism2v2 2.7 by Neil Cafferkey
  **Mount 50.9 by Peter Gordon (used for installation procedure only)
  **Mpega Library 2.4 by Stephane Tavenard
  **MIDIFiles 1.0 by Le Gac Stephan
  **GMPlay 1.3 by Christian Buchner
  **GMPlayMUI 1.2 by Charlie/Stipey
  **GMTones 1&2by Martin Caspersson
  +**Topaz6.font from ViNCEd archive by Thomas Richter
 
  --------------------------------------------
 
  Satisfied? Get a lot of bucks per watt?


Jan Zah

Posts 2
16 Aug 2020 23:39


@Pascal

Did you really think that all those programs I mentioned are included with AmiKit? Funny. Obviously, you have no idea what's included, but you know it's a theft. OK. For your information, the software in AmiKit is included with permission.

@Sean, Stefano, Vojin, thank you guys!


Tim Noyce

Posts 56
17 Aug 2020 16:50


Jan,

AmigaKit is a great distribution. I'm happy to hear you went through the process of obtaining permission before including content. Not many would go through that process.




Michal Pietal

Posts 128
17 Aug 2020 20:34


Tim Noyce wrote:

  Jan,
 
  AmigaKit is a great distribution. I'm happy to hear you went through the process of obtaining permission before including content. Not many would go through that process.
 
 
 

 
  Some others claiming to deliver some another V4SA OS3.9 top-up didn't...


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1719
18 Aug 2020 05:48


Michal Pietal wrote:
 
    Some others claiming to deliver some another V4SA OS3.9 top-up didn't...

 
  Coffin did not certainly, as well as this Piamiga and many net archives. But IP holders does not seem to rage about it either (in Coffin case, MUI Mapparium and Fusion were removed).
 
  Surely, with AmiKit and AROS based ApolloOS, its more thing of the past then of the future. Now, IP holders, resolve your matters!
 


Stefano Briccolani

Posts 502
11 Sep 2020 14:35


Just made a short video about AmikitXE for Vampire. I think Jan deserves some congrats for building a very solid (and visually stunning) distribution for Vampires.

EXTERNAL LINK


Kriz Antikriz

Posts 12
12 Sep 2020 08:15


Its nice that its out, but I agree .. 50 Euro is way too much, 10-20 Euro would be the top price for me, it looks nice but a lot of demo versions included is just annoying..

I rather just use Coffin and buy Ibrowse then for such money ..


Manfred Bergmann

Posts 191
12 Sep 2020 11:21


Everyone can decide what to do.
   
    I think the author of AmiKit put a lot of time into it which might not necessarily be so obvious. So I think the price is warranted. It's not a community project like CoffinOS. It's done by one person.
   
    I call 50 EUR for a browser that can't do HTML 5, CSS and JavaScript properly a lot. And yet, it might be warranted as well considering the effort put into it.


Michal Pietal

Posts 128
12 Sep 2020 12:56


Kriz Antikriz wrote:

Its nice that its out, but I agree .. 50 Euro is way too much, 10-20 Euro would be the top price for me, it looks nice but a lot of demo versions included is just annoying..
 
  I rather just use Coffin and buy Ibrowse then for such money ..

50 Euro... not great, not terrible

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