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Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1689
23 Dec 2019 11:25


Fabien Briatte wrote:

Which Core is installed on the V1200?

Always latest at time of production (now GOLD 2.12)

Newer ones needs to be flashed by end user.


Knight Stone

Posts 108
23 Dec 2019 14:15


is the V1200 essentially the same as the V500 and V600? is it the same core, clocked at the same speed, with the same amount of memory, just with a trapdoor interface ?


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1689
23 Dec 2019 14:25


Knight Stone wrote:

  is the V1200 essentially the same as the V500 and V600? is it the same core, clocked at the same speed, with the same amount of memory, just with a trapdoor interface ?
 

 
  Majsta will elaborate. Its EVOLUTION of v2, but a step forward too, that is not fully used now.
 
  Its the same in terms it uses GOLD2 series of cores and AGA chipset for now.
 
  But - it has few PCB/Card improvements like Vamp sign, DIGITAL-VIDEO stability ... Majsta is the man to ask in depth :)
 
  and I believe ... should have newer Cyclone chip, maybe offering some V4 features that could not be done in limited V2 chips.
 
  So should became more in future, hence the quite of price change.
 
  Also, DDR RAM should be DDR2 or 3,similar to V4 and significantly faster then DDR in v2, offering boost and full use of mighty Apollo mem controller (at least until we start using DDR5 :)


Knight Stone

Posts 108
23 Dec 2019 14:29


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

Knight Stone wrote:

    is the V1200 essentially the same as the V500 and V600? is it the same core, clocked at the same speed, with the same amount of memory, just with a trapdoor interface ?
   

   
    Majsta will elaborate. Its EVOLUTION of v2, but a step forward too, that is not fully used now.
   
    Its the same in terms it uses GOLD2 series of cores and AGA chipset for now.
   
    But - it has few PCB/Card improvements like Vamp sign, DIGITAL-VIDEO stability ... Majsta is the man to ask in depth :)
   
    and I believe ... should have newer Cyclone chip, maybe offering some V4 features that could not be done in limited V2 chips.
   
    So should became more in future, hence the quite of price change.
 
  Also, DDR RAM should be DDR2 or 3,similar to V4 and significantly faster then DDR in v2, offering boost and full use of mighty Apollo mem controller (at least until we start using DDR5 :)

thanks for that  :)  I am sure Majsta will elaborate. any early indication of benchmarks?




Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1689
23 Dec 2019 14:33


Knight Stone wrote:

    thanks for that  :)  I am sure Majsta will elaborate. any early indication of benchmarks?
   

   
    Yes, faster then v2 comparable almost to v4sa, majsta posted them here (search fora for a bit older V1200 threads).
 
  Note that RESULTS vary depending on core maturity and X speed, so older videos or post likely results can get better. Cores X13+ are experimental and unlikely to be shipped as default.
   
    As apetizer, this is half year old EXTERNAL LINK   
  113 MIPS 55+ MFLOPS, SysInfo 4.1b20 70+ Mhz 080 (X10-x11 Core, normal results)
   


Igor Majstorovic
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 327
23 Dec 2019 15:39


We already published some pictures of tests we performed with new V1200. They are on this forum on various topics. As for V2 series, like planed we continue on that platform regarding accelerators. Comparing V500 and V600 to V1200, there are lot of differences and improvements. Just compare pictures and look for parts used. I really don't have much time to answer all questions now since as you know right now I m very busy.


Tim Trepanier

Posts 106
23 Dec 2019 15:47


What does the V1200 card come with? For example, does it include cables to extend digital-video out and microSD connectors out of the case?

I'm assuming an HD solution and wifi add-on are not included.


Knight Stone

Posts 108
23 Dec 2019 16:00


Tim Trepanier wrote:

What does the V1200 card come with? For example, does it include cables to extend digital-video out and microSD connectors out of the case?
 
  I'm assuming an HD solution and wifi add-on are not included.

i should imagine it will arrive like my A600 vampire, just the card on its own.


Stefano Briccolani

Posts 463
23 Dec 2019 16:04


igor majstorovic wrote:

We already published some pictures of tests we performed with new V1200. They are on this forum on various topics. As for V2 series, like planed we continue on that platform regarding accelerators. Comparing V500 and V600 to V1200, there are lot of differences and improvements. Just compare pictures and look for parts used. I really don't have much time to answer all questions now since as you know right now I m very busy.

Igor, take a break and show to the world your masterpiece. 


Vito Leva

Posts 31
23 Dec 2019 17:00


So i am on expressed interest on V1200...
What means?


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1689
23 Dec 2019 17:26


Tim Trepanier wrote:

  What does the V1200 card come with? For example, does it include cables to extend digital-video out and microSD connectors out of the case?
   
    I'm assuming an HD solution and wifi add-on are not included.
 

 
  Card and brief manual. You can arrange LAN module, cables and USB Blaster with Amiga dealers like Amedia or Vesalia as separate, or order from them the bundle.
 
 
Vito Leva wrote:

  So i am on expressed interest on V1200...
  What means?
 

 
  Once called (e-mailed), have your money OR you will have to do express and wait once again!
 


Vito Leva

Posts 31
23 Dec 2019 17:53


Ok i'll wait for the call...money ready...


Andy Hearn

Posts 288
23 Dec 2019 17:58


Boom! Done!


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1689
23 Dec 2019 18:51


Vito Leva wrote:

Ok i'll wait for the call...money ready...

Note that you enter the queque day you express interest and then wait to be served in place reserved. Single person,Igor is preparing and shipping,no Amazon here.

First order is 100 pieces, so depending on your position, it will be sooner or later.


Michael Huck

Posts 45
23 Dec 2019 19:29


Interest expressed!


Vito Leva

Posts 31
24 Dec 2019 09:49


So where is place reserved? Will be send by email link?


Claudio Guglielmotti
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 178
24 Dec 2019 10:01


...it is probably stopped in the Italian customs
:)
Merry Christamas


Stefano Briccolani

Posts 463
24 Dec 2019 13:41


A friend of mine asked about v1200 Mediator PCI compatibility and in particular with Voodoo3 board (for 3D features, I suppose). Are there any infos about that?


Igor Majstorovic
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 327
24 Dec 2019 16:08


@Stefano Briccolani Last year I talked to Elbox trying to get more info about how Mediator works, that's one of the reasons why V1200 card was redesigned so many times. As for now I think that I have managed to do whatever is needed on hardware side to support other hardware like Mediator or similar but such things are not yet implemented in core. As you remember, when we started with silver cores for V500/600 that there were lot of bugs who are fixed later in next core revisions. Same thing will happen now with V1200. Core for V1200 is very good now but with lot of space for improvement and additional features, fixes. As this is specific hardware we will need reports and help from users to fix what is needed. Small team, like we are, can't test every game/program and many additional hardware expansions. I hope you understand.


Stefano Briccolani

Posts 463
24 Dec 2019 16:14


Thank you for the kind reply. I'll report it to my friend. V1200 is awesome!! I hope I was speedy enough on the order page and be one of the 100 lucky.

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