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Calaminici Davide

Posts 17
18 Jun 2018 10:17


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Just curious of what the Apolo team could bring out of this FPGA


Roy Gillotti

Posts 193
18 Jun 2018 11:13


Calaminici Davide wrote:

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  Just curious of what the Apolo team could bring out of this FPGA

Hmm the non-HBM version's Evaluation kit is ~$6500.00 USD, with each individual FPGA is somewhere between $1200.00 - $3000.00 USD. current prices of HBMs and the new technology to attach them to a small package like that will likely drive up the prices on those versions. So I can't really see that as a viable V5 solution.


Adam A

Posts 9
18 Jun 2018 12:39


I think the v4 is more than enough for our amiga needs, lets just hope there wont be any v5 in the future, I already bought 5 V2 vampire cards!!


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 347
18 Jun 2018 12:41


Calaminici Davide wrote:

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  Just curious of what the Apolo team could bring out of this FPGA

Its very nice to see how FPGA world improves. However, Vamps are:

a)Currently linked to ALTERA CYCLONE FPGA only

b)Intended to be a cheap accelerator / Classic replacement rather then to compete with other non FPGA devices

So its as pointless as current demand to port single core OS4 to IBM POWER9. If Hype/AEON were on that path, I would have POWER7 with OS 4.2/Latest Linux out of box instead of x1000 with 4.1.1/Enhancer 1.3/no GNOME 3d


Ian Parsons

Posts 159
18 Jun 2018 15:09


Adam  A wrote:

I think the v4 is more than enough for our amiga needs, lets just hope there wont be any v5 in the future, I already bought 5 V2 vampire cards!!
Apollo core development goes back about 10 years to the Natami which itself evolved from around 5 years earlier to be a 68060 machine with FPGA AGA chipset to an Apollo core machine with SAGA. When the Natami didn't go into production the Vampire 1 pre-orders began in 2013, Vampire 2(3) in 2015 and Vampire 4 in 2018. So the rate of change is healthy without being crazy like in the mobile devices world. Remember the V2 is still getting free upgrades and the new Vampire 4 is a moderate improvement in performance and whilst it has vastly more memory it's still much less than modern computers and there's not much classic Amiga software that needs or can use that much.

I don't see the Apollo core being only about retro performance in the long term. It's great that you bought 5 V2's for your classics but with the V4 standalone and other new machines in the future a V5 and beyond (hopefully with GHz ASICs) is essential to be a viable alternative hardware platform.


Mallagan Bellator

Posts 349
22 Jun 2018 00:45


Yup, itís clear they want to develop the core for the future of the Amiga. Why else invest time in developing SAGA and Pamela? And why make V4? For future stuff of course!
The V2 is already more than enough for retro


Mo Retro

Posts 187
22 Jun 2018 12:40


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

   
    b)Intended to be a cheap accelerator / Classic replacement rather then to compete with other non FPGA devices
   
 

 
  I agree partly with that Vojin. The current V2 is not only a cheap and classic replacement, but surpasses that by giving us Saga, Pamela, DIGITAL-VIDEO, SDNET & expansion ports.
 
 
Mallagan Bellator wrote:

  Yup, itís clear they want to develop the core for the future of the Amiga. Why else invest time in developing SAGA and Pamela? And why make V4? For future stuff of course!
    The V2 is already more than enough for retro
 

 
  I Agree completely with that Mallagan as it gives us already more than classic. We are now where Commodoreshould have been with there promessed Triple-A Amiga before they went bankrupt.
  The next Vampire Iterations could give us all that plus an Amiga that can compete with present day hardware by using better FPGA's or an ASIC solution.
  With that we would need also software that can use the new features of this future Amiga of course :)
 

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